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AMERICAN JEWRY’S PUSH
FOR MASSIVE IMMIGRATION

By Brother Nathanael Kapner, Copyright 2010

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MAIN STREET WILL NEVER be the same if the flood of “legal” immigrants from Third World Nations is not brought to a definitive halt.

Sadly, America will find no help in stopping this onslaught from its current President, Barack Hussein Obama, an apparent adherent to Islam, who recently stated that “America is no longer a Christian nation” and falsely proclaiming that America is “one of the largest Muslim nations in the world.”

In a Presidential Memorandum to the US State Department dated 8 October 2010, Obama announced that he will import an additional 80,000 immigrants — mostly from Islamic countries — to resettle in the US next year.

Refugee Resettlement Watch and many other Anti-Immigration organizations, (black-listed by the Jewish-run SPLC), have expressed grave concerns that Obama is allowing so many immigrants into the country while so many Americans are out of work.

The US State Department, with its Jew-intensive Senior Staff (Deputy Secretary: James Steinberg; Managing Secretary: Jacob Lew; Arms Control Secretary: Ellen Tauscher) is among the chief promoters of massive immigration into America.

The Assistant Secretary of State for Population and Migration just happens to be a another Jew, one Eric Schwartz, who recently announced a doubling of the funds designated for immigration resettlement in the US.

Various Christian leaders contend that along with Muslim resettlement comes their mosques, and with their mosques comes a blight on the American landscape with its traditional Christian Churches dotted throughout the nation. And this is exactly what American Jewry is striving for.

Prior to his appointment to the State Department, Schwartz was an active participant of George Soros’ (Jew) Tides Foundation, (Bronfman family involved as well), an advocacy conglomerate agitating for both legal and illegal immigration.

In other words, Jews, whether running the US State Department or funding a labyrinth of NGO’s, are on a mission to destroy White Christian America.

JEWRY PUSHES MASSIVE IMMIGRATION

FRESH FROM VOTING for the 2006 ‘Kennedy Immigration Acceleration Act’, House Judiciary Committee members, Jewish Senators Herb Kohl and Russ Feingold of Wisconsin, defended the Bill before their White constituents.

Kohl told his people that he is “fighting for families.” (The question is, “which families Herb?” Somalian families? Pakistani families? — but not White American families.)

Feingold initially promised his constituents that he was “proactive in taking care of the working men and women who are the heart and soul of Wisconsin’s economy.”

In an abrupt turnabout upon his voting for the legislation, Feingold betrayed his promise when stating, “I voted for the Bill because it allows foreign workers to come into the country to work when there is truly a need for their labor.”

With 31 million Americans out of work, one wonders where a “need” for foreign labor exists.

Recently, the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Agency congratulated Senator Kohl and his co-religionist, Senator Al Franken of Minnesota, for introducing a Bill that protects 5 million children and their illegal immigrant parents from being deported so as not to “separate the family.” (Many argue that both the children and their illegal parents should be deported.)

With its “Welcome The Stranger” program, the Hebrew Immigration Aid Agency in concert with The National Council of Jewish Women, boasts that it has brought “300,000 foreigners of all backgrounds” to “emigrate and integrate into American communities.”

In other words, American Jewry wants nothing less than the complete annihilation of a White Christian presence in America.

Unless their persistent anti-Christian agenda is stopped, Jewish organizations will fragment America into a multi-racial Welfare State from which moneyed-Jews will stand aloof and of which alienated Whites will stand disenfranchised.

Only a renewed authoritarian ruling class can mend the damage and glue America into a cohesive unit. Indeed, an autocratic Gentile élite is at the doors…

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And: The Jewry’s War On White America Click Here

And: The Jewish Conspiracy Behind The 1965 Open Immigration Law Click Here

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  1. Brother Nathanael October 27, 2010 @ 10:46 am

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    As you noticed, I ended this piece with perhaps a startling assertion, that is, the need for a “ruling class” — an authoritative Gentile “elite” to run the Jews off America’s policy-making once and for all.

    I will be giving deep thought to this possibility/probability until from tomorrow Thursday until next Monday when Lord willing I will be doing a Video on this concept and hope.
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  2. N6J October 27, 2010 @ 12:48 pm

    “…Emigrate and integrate into American communities.”

    Absolutely laffable!

    Since when have these Third World immigrants enthusiastically integrated into American communities and society as a whole?

    The whole “diversity” script originates with maintaining cultural identity.

    That identity being the immigrant’s culture from whence they originated and NOT American culture.

    Later on, their children may adopt American culture, however, what they adopt is the MTV, luciferian, empty-headed, materialistic culture which only takes away from traditional American culture.

    Politicians work both sides of the equation.

    They allow other cultures to plant themselves within American society without proper assimilation then endorse and encourage the depravity and promiscuousness of a counterculture which accelerates the rot from within.

    My advice: Follow Brother Nathanael’s example, tune out the world (turn of the TV, radio, stop with the newspapers and magazines) for a set amount of time and get with the Holy Scriptures plus deep contemplation seeking Our Lord’s voice.

    You don’t have to do this immediately.

    Make plans for it whether it’s for one day or longer. Unplugging from the dominant media culture, they (the controllers) suffer (just a little) while you get some relief.

    All of God’s best to your efforts Brother Nathanael, take your time, we can wait…

  3. Left Coast Christian October 27, 2010 @ 2:06 pm

    I can’t add much more to the above article because Brother Nathanael summed it up pretty good.

    The one thing that people need to understand is the reason why Zionist Jews try to undermine (especially) white Christian hegemony is because they see them as their biggest threat.

    All of the other races, Blacks, Hispanics/Latinos, Semites/other Middle Eastern peoples, they simply hypnotize them through the Talmudivision and say “White man has kept you down, White man want’s your pride, women blah blah blah” and they believe it!!!

    This all started in the 1920s when a group of European (mostly Jewish) Communists decided they were going to destroy Western culture so as to prompt a Communist takeover. Anyone want to know how the roots of political correctness started read this:
    http://seanbryson.com/articles/pc_history.html#destroy

    It’s interesting that Bro Nate mentions an “authoritarian ruling class.”

    I can see why he would suggest this because democracy has clearly failed. We have self-serving “leaders” who get elected by simply manipulating the masses and catering (pretending) to their every short term whim.

    We need REAL strong leaders in this country. At the VERY LEAST the desire is there. Look at Germany: 40% believe they’re are being overrun by foreigners, 30% wouldn’t mind shipping foreigners back in tough economic times, and 10% are longing for a strong fuher (leader) who actually cares about Germany and its culture.

    Every Western country needs the equivalent of the British National Party that takes a hard line on issues of race and culture.

    The solution: even a minority of ORGANIZED white Christian freedom loving people can start to turn this country around.

  4. Nicolae October 27, 2010 @ 2:25 pm

    ‘Multiculturalism utterly failed in Germany’ - Merkel
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKG76HF24_k

    Take a look at their plan for us, this is from the pits of hell and satan is the one that control those sick, liars sons of hell ASHKENAZI.

    How To Kill Goyim And Influence People — Torat Ha’melech
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t_LxpCY2G8&feature=player_embedded

    Police release rabbi arrested for inciting to kill non-Jews

    Police released the head rabbi of a prominent yeshiva yesterday hours after arresting him for encouraging to kill non-Jews.

    Rabbi Yitzhak Shapira, head of the Od Yosef Hai Yeshiva and author of “The King’s Torah,” was arrested early yesterday morning at his home in the West Bank settlement of Yitzhar.

    His book describes how it is possible to kill non-Jews according to halakha (Jewish religious law ).
    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/police-release-rabbi-arrested-for-inciting-to-kill-non-jews-1.304261

    Gentiles exist only to serve Jews.

    The sole purpose of non-Jews is to serve Jews, according to Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, the head of Shas’s Council of Torah Sages and a senior Sephardi adjudicator.

    “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel,” he said in his weekly Saturday night sermon on the laws regarding the actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on Shabbat.

    According to Yosef, the lives of non-Jews in Israel are safeguarded by divinity, to prevent losses to Jews.

    “In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one’s donkey would die, they’d lose their money.

    This is his servant… That’s why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew,” Yosef said.

    Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.
    http://www.jpost.com/JewishWorld/JewishNews/Article.aspx?id=191782

    The Edomites were in Israel when the JEWS were in Israel. King Herod which was not a JEW was an Edomite.

    They dwelled amongst the JEWS, ate with the JEWS adopted their practices, culture etc. Later when Titus besieged Jerusalem and killed the Israelites and sold the younger ones to the Ethiopians, Arabs, and Egyptians.

    The Edomites who resided in Israel, later proclaimed themselves to be the house of ISRAEL, and are now recognized as Israel today by the majority of the world.

    Jeremiah Prophesies: Edom to Become a Wasteland

    Concerning Edom. Thus says the LORD of hosts: “Is wisdom no more in Teman? Has counsel perished from the prudent? Has their wisdom vanished? Flee, turn back, dwell in the depths, O inhabitants of Dedan!

    “For I will bring the calamity of Esau upon him, the time when I punish him. If grape-gatherers came to you, would they not leave gleanings? If thieves came by night, would they not destroy only enough for themselves? But I have stripped Esau bare, I have uncovered his hiding places, and he is not able to conceal himself.

    “His children are destroyed, and his brothers, and his neighbors; and he is no more. Leave your fatherless children, I will keep them alive; and let your widows trust in me.”

    For thus says the LORD: “If those who did not deserve to drink the cup must drink it, will you go unpunished? You shall not go unpunished, but you must drink.

    “For I have sworn by myself, says the LORD, that Bozrah shall become a horror, a taunt, a waste, and a curse; and all her cities shall be perpetual wastes.”

    I have heard tidings from the LORD, and a messenger has been sent among the nations:

    “Gather yourselves together and come against her, and rise up for battle!” For behold, I will make you small among the nations, despised among men. The horror you inspire has deceived you, and the pride of your heart, you who live in the clefts of the rock, who hold the height of the hill.

    “Though you make your nest as high as the eagle’s, I will bring you down from there, says the LORD. “Edom shall become a horror; every one who passes by it will be horrified and will hiss because of all its disasters.

    “As when Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighbor cities were overthrown, says the LORD, no man shall dwell there, no man shall sojourn in her. Behold, like a lion coming up from the jungle of the Jordan against a strong sheepfold, I will suddenly make them run away from her; and I will appoint over her whomever I choose.

    “For who is like me? Who will summon me? What shepherd can stand before me? Therefore hear the plan which the LORD has made against Edom and the purposes which he has formed against the inhabitants of Teman: Even the little ones of the flock shall be dragged away; surely their fold shall be appalled at their fate.

    “At the sound of their fall the earth shall tremble; the sound of their cry shall be heard at the Red Sea. Behold, one shall mount up and fly swiftly like an eagle, and spread his wings against Bozrah, and the heart of the warriors of Edom shall be in that day like the heart of a woman in her pangs.” (Jeremiah 49:7-22)

  5. hvt October 27, 2010 @ 2:27 pm

    Thank you, Brother Nathanael, for explaining a bit on your last statement.

    I understood all of what you said in this article up to that point.

    May our dear Lord, who is wisdom, grant you much insight as you enter His presence.

    Dear RZN family, let us unite as one on behalf of our dear Brother Nathanael as he seeks the Lord’s heart, mind and direction.

  6. charlie October 27, 2010 @ 3:24 pm

    One shouldn’t forget why there is a “need” for immigration in the first place.

    That is because the monopoly bank-owned corporations who rule the world economy have thrashed the economies of so called poor “third world” countries to begin with.

    They do this not to gain wealth per se but to gain it at the expense of others, people, nations and regions of the world that they might subjugate them to their every whim and evil aims.

    Then send off the chaff to disintegrate the economies of so called first world countries so as to subject them also to their every whim and evil aim.

    They are guided by Lucifer in all of this.

    He is their corporate head.

    Without him they don’t have a brain between them.

    Just look at the dumb, stupid head and listen to the dumb, stupid rhetoric of people like Henry Kissenger for example, and you have to wonder why, without a brain between them they can take over the world.

    Does it make sense to you?

    This is why prayer is the ultimate weapon.

    Faith and discipline which brings forth the power of God.

    Someone mentioned the Old Testament.

    And one can see there what great faith can do.

    Would that we had their faith today.

    So too the Christian saints and Christ’s church was instrumental in lifting mankind out of slavery to the devil.

    Did they do so only to see the world in the last days revert to an even greater slavery?

    And all this due to the convergence of global money and technology?

    Are we so easily seduced away from God?

    Where is our pride in our great Christian heritage?

    Our cultural and moral fabric will not be taken away by Lucifer and his demons, and their human animal slaves, who have stripped mankind of its religious roots and now descend upon it like ravenous wolves to devour its flesh also.

    Praise Jesus!

  7. Brother Nathanael October 27, 2010 @ 4:44 pm

    Dear Real Zionist News Family,

    I have just been notified by the Moderation Team that some of you are “upset” by my appeal for financial help.

    Surely, donations in ANY amount would help the cause.
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    Also, I have been informed that many are posting WAY OFF-TOPIC and that the team had to delete many comments.

    Please STAY ON TOPIC.

    +Brother Nathanael

  8. Arjan October 27, 2010 @ 5:16 pm

    +Br Nathanael wrote: “Only a renewed authoritarian ruling class can mend the damage and glue America into a cohesive unit. Indeed, an autocratic Gentile élite is at the doors…”

    It is a logical conclusion and it needs to happen.

    I hope God will give us a leader that follows His will, Amen.

    Arjan

  9. charlie October 27, 2010 @ 5:25 pm

    I think anyone who comes here unless they are using a library computer or someone else’s, can afford $5.

  10. KathJuliane October 27, 2010 @ 5:59 pm

    Ponderings.

    With the migration waves of Christian ethnic groups between the 1840’s to WW1 from the Middle East, Southeast Europe and the Mediterranean, several thousand Muslims immigrated to the United States from the Ottoman Empire, and from parts of South Asia.

    These were areas already exposed and acclimated to Christian, European, British and American cultural, social and political moderating influences, as well as Western law.

    Some who came to America had received a basic education from the missionary Protestant Christian American schools overseas along with the more numerous Eastern Christian students.

    European, Protestant, Catholic and Russian Orthodox Christian civilizing influence was strongly felt in the region.

    Most of the Muslim immigrants, from Arab areas of the Ottoman Empire, came with the purpose of making money and returning to their homeland.

    The economic hardships of 19th-Century America, along with major disturbances, civil wars and unrest at home, prevented the immigrants from prospering, and as a result they settled in the US forming small communities, and continued to support their families overseas.

    These first Muslim immigrants after deciding to stay, came to believe that to be an American citizen was a high privilege and honor, regardless of any other hardships, and dedicated themselves to acquiring citizenship, and a commitment to education virtually went without saying.

    They applied themselves to the fundamentals of American political theory and civics, absorbed the best of American culture in the 19th and early 20th centuries within their own communities, and became active in local politics.

    In this sense, they assimilated the cultural spirit of “White Christian America” and everything it stands for unto themselves.

    Because it was such an integral part of American life that they were a part of, some Muslims even celebrated Christmas, including a tree, in honor of Jesus.

    These early immigrant Muslim families were hard-working and became well-educated, productive, patriotic and loyal American citizens, right along with the Eastern Christian immigrants, and submitted to the standard of American civil and criminal law.

    Their descendents are sometimes called “the moderate” American Muslims. It wasn’t all that long ago that people with Greek, Italian, or Polish last names were discriminated against, too.

    Outside the home and the mosque, Muslims integrated into civil society and public life. Under the assurance of one standardized law of the land, they lived in harmony within the White Euro-American Culture, sharing traditional values like hard work and family, morals and promoting teachable virtues.

    They adjusted to American law, constitutional government, and social customs, transformed “Sharia” (a vast body of Muslims scholars’ case law) into a more personal religious and moral discipline and teachings, while giving up its communal political and other ultra-legal dimensions, some of which is derived from the variations of ethnic customary law as well.

    It’s not “The Sharia” but “Which Sharia” does everyone mean? It depends on a particular imam’s intepretation, whether Sunni, Shia or Sufi traditions at the minimum, and also which country they came from.

    The chief problem is the influence of homegrown leftist radicals and Jews on both sides of the divide which poisons and distorts Muslim culture, inwardly and outwardly.

    On the same hand, the “right” like Brzezinski and the CIA cultivated Taliban style fanaticism during the Afghan-Soviet war when OBL was “our” OBL, even so far as publishing corrupt Qurans for the madrassas.

    These Jews pushing immigration and leftists in Muslim garb care nothing about either God or Muslims, because they are often atheists or idolaters, like I suspect Obama really is.

  11. KathJuliane October 27, 2010 @ 6:29 pm

    As the foreign Muslims’ new best friend, not to mention the strong lobbying on behalf of Mexico politics as well, the Jew dominated, magician trickster leftist advocates, firmly discourage the least degree of acculturation and assimilation.

    Like encouraging and requiring immigrants to be able to read and write English.

    Part of the hyper-Islamicist civil rights hocus pocus is usually just to aggravate social tension with more “hate” crime laws designed to stifle discussion and intimidate opponents.

    All of which paradoxically quashes a Muslim’s civil rights under the law of the land, and seriously dilutes those cases which have sustained legitimate grievances.

    The typical foreign Muslim now tries to escape poverty, war, and Muslim violence in their home nations, are poor, and often poorly educated, and come in as genuine refugees.

    Their problem is they flee the misery and poverty caused by their backward Islamic-tribal culture and customary law, then want to retain that very same culture in the West, encouraged by the Jews “multi-culturalism.”

    In the cause of political correctness, many public officials look the other way as women and girls often live in terror, especially in Europe.

    The “Muslim question” is at a critical level in Europe, home grown from different circumstances and elite policies, politically and economically, but the trend towards “tribalism” is growing here in America.

    Recent Muslim immigrants, rather than seeking to become acculturated and integrated American citizens while retaining the best features of their faith and culture, now follow a much more fundamentalist “Islamist” ideology.

    Muslims coming in as refugees or asylees, lock themselves into self-imposed ghettos, rather than a historically more open, adjusted ethnic community, and then with the generous welfare entitlements they receive, they then build a type of mini-state identical to what they left in Turkey, Iraq, or Pakistan.

    Retained without any criticism are many practices and traditions clearly criminal in Western society and law, including polygamy and underage marriages. Life in the West means follow European and American law and customs, not Sharia Law, period.

    Certain Mormon sects with private ceremonies marrying 12 year old girls to 30 year old men, and practicing polygamy as well was/is a barbaric custom in America that is not tolerated at all, whether Muslim or non-Muslim.

    But, authorities are beginning to ignore polygamy with Muslim immigrants, wife and child abuse and female mutilations, etc.

    The fraudulent nature of “normative multiculturalism” (cultural Marxism making all social cultures “equal” under one roof) is fully exposed in the woman’s utterly devalued status in many of the more tribal “traditional” cultures, not only abroad but then imported to here.

    The cultural Marxist assumption that all cultures and societies are “equal” is entirely refuted, especially in terms of criminal law and the administration of justice.

    Some, not all, Muslim societies are among the most barbaric places on earth in terms of human rights. “Honor killing” is practiced where women are murdered for the smallest affronts to rigid social codes, and blood feuds can run generations.

    According to Amnesty International, hundreds of such murders occur every year in Pakistan. Some of these nations are home to cultural practices like purdah (lifelong house arrest for women), slavery, and female genital mutilation.

    On the same hand, there is a growing refusal of Western governments to impartially enforce the civil and criminal law of the land in order to “show respect” for other cultures among the new immigrants.

    These same imported barbaric practices are now growing in Europe, and incidents of non-prosecution based on “showing cultural respect” are breaking out here in America.

    Muslim women and children on American soil deserve the same rights and protections of non-Muslim women on American soil.

    Western governments must enforce the law to protect the individual woman or girl (as well as men and boys) without regard to certain darker sides of Islamic custom, and over the collective rights of the community.

    The worst outrage is the refusal of German, Dutch, French, etc. authorities to equally enforce civil and criminal laws against any offending Muslims in their countries, which is running epidemic.

    There are Muslim groups in the US and Canada now demanding separate civil and legal systems within the Muslim community, and this seriously breaches the Constitution and what equal treatment under the law means.

    I believe in individual rights and protection, over the customs and welfare of the “group.” Multiculturalism (or cultural Marxism) advocate in terms of group social entitlements, not in terms of Constitutional individual liberty or freedom, and civil rights.

    As the Supreme Court said to the Mormons in the 1890’s, belief is one thing, break the law go to jail; and until you give up polygamy, the Territory of Utah will not be granted full statehood.

    Taken to its logical conclusion of non-prosecution for statuatory crimes, because these crimes are somehow integral to someone else’s customary law in another culture, then Jeffrey Dahmer should never have been arrested and convicted, and imprisoned for life for his crimes, but merely living an alternative lifestyle.

    Why? In terms of moral and cultural relativity, all things being equal, because his criminal prosecution offends against the “culture” of the society of psychopathic serial mass murders and sexual predator deviants who ritually violate, mutilate and cannibalize their victims, especially children and juveniles.

  12. Hoff October 27, 2010 @ 6:43 pm

    Only a renewed authoritarian ruling class can mend the damage and glue America into a cohesive unit. Indeed, an autocratic Gentile élite is at the doors… -BN-
    ===

    Hoff: The highest WORLDLY power you can get is to control the state. The elite is who controls the state. Control the elite and you control the state.

    ln Russia 1917 the Jews killed the entire Russian elite, and when the Russian elites homes were empty, the Jews moved in. Hence the Jews replaced the old elite, hence the Jews were now in control of the Russian state.

    The Jews have done the very same thing in the entire western world, only it took the Jews a little longer to take control of the old white elite.

    Anyone in the elite that comes out against the Jews’ agenda will be smear-slandered with the Jews bogus accusation “anti-Semite.” Once the Jews accuse anyone to be “anti-Semite” all the Jews and the Jews’ Useful ldiots will persecute that non-Jew to his or her death.

    This is EXACTLY the same thing as the Jews did in Russia 1917, only sublime and harder to understand for the (m)asses. End result is the same, all resistance in the old elite to the Jews taking over their state is killed.

    The real Gentile problem is that they don’t understand what their state really is and less do they understand how to control their state. The Jew knows everything about how to control the Goy state, and the stupid Goy don’t even knows he and she has a state.

    Who do you think is on top here: The Goy who even don’t get that he and she have a state, or the Jews who knows everything about how to control the state?

    The American state is 50, five-zero offices. Take control of 50 offices and you control the American state. Can Y-O-U tell me where those 50 offices are located?

    Do you know what all those 50 offices have in common? They are all controlled by Jews. Every single one is controlled by a Jew. Can you spot them?

    Tell me: What is your state and how to control it. Once you understand that you have the solution to the Jew-problem.

    The WHOLE Jew-problem is that the Jews control our elite, and by that, our state.

  13. Hoff October 27, 2010 @ 7:17 pm

    There’s no such thing as “anti-Semitsm.”

    “Anti-semitism” is a social construct created to shame Gentiles who criticize Jews.

    http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2010/10/26/the-state-of-usreal/#comment-37373

  14. fRED October 27, 2010 @ 7:30 pm

    +Br. N has made an interesting pre-statement. A new type of government is needed.

    I am NOT advocating the overthrow of the government. So hear me out. I am just talking out loud.

    That being said, it must be noted that the United States is/was the first nation to be defined as a secular nation in its inception. The Constitution begins “We the People….”

    The great experiment in democracy is failing because our forefathers (some were deists, agnostics, and Congregationalists) defined the sovereignty of the nation as resting upon the people (popular sovereignty).

    That concept is the natural extension or progression of the Enlightenment. Though the Enlightenment in some ways continued to try to discover natural law - it hung its hat on the Greek philosopher Protagoras’s summation that “man is the measure of all things.”

    With the people being sovereign, there are no absolutes.

    The demise of the nation has not occurred overnight — but has occurred because the only foundation that a nation can exist rests upon a deity - and for Christians it is Jesus.

    Beginning right after World War Two what the Federalist said was the weakest branch of government, the Supreme Court, has slowly removed Jesus, the God of our fathers, out of the public discourse.

    I’ll keep this short.

    I have been contemplating what would be better than democracy, and not as despotic as an absolute theocratic monarchy.

    I think some type of Constitutional monarchy may suffice because #1 you might have continuity in the head of state; #2 the constituents would know who is to blame or get the credit; #3 the monarch to stay in power must have the best interest of his subjects when he acts.

    Maybe this is all pie in the sky. But I know that we as a nation cannot continue in the direction we are headed.

    We are financially, ethically, and morally bankrupt. We are near the place where Imperial Rome was as it began to collapse nearly 1800 years ago.

    We must keep trying to salvage our nation - but at the same time should we not be praying as John the Revelator admonished us to – I paraphrase - when the Church says come, and the Spirit says come, then Jesus will.

    fRED

  15. Words of Wisdom October 27, 2010 @ 8:46 pm

    There is no way Obama is an adherent to Islam.

    I know a lot of people are saying this but it is flat out wrong.

    Obama is a product of the mystery schools cult who are obsessed with world domination.

    The Jewish leaders are at the head of this cult and they wish to destroy all religion including Christianity AND Islam. In it’s place will be a world religion based on the pantheism (which is really just old paganism revived).

  16. Paul October 27, 2010 @ 11:00 pm

    The attempt to unite with Christian America against Islam, is a Jewish agenda.

    Moslems were not suicidal till recent wars in the Middle East (Jewish agenda).

    Not all Moslems are semites but Jews are.

    Still they think of themselves as White and fool the Christians into taking them in the same camp against Moslems.

  17. Reme October 27, 2010 @ 11:21 pm

    Brother Nathanael, I love a lot of your stuff but there are some things here I disagree with.

    I am 110% anti-Zionist and I know you want to defend Christianity, but you don’t have to go anti-Muslim to do it.

    Muslims are true believers in the one GOD. And they believe in Jesus as the Messiah. Herb and Feingold are not as Zionist as you want to portray them. Herb I don’t care for, but Russ Feingold stood up against the Iraq war and his record shows that he’s better than most Jews in the government.

    How would you feel if someone put your pic up just because you were a Jew and say that you have a Zionist agenda?

    I think that Mexicans are the biggest threat to the America that Christians and Muslims on Columbus’s boat envisioned.

  18. Reme October 27, 2010 @ 11:27 pm

    One more thing.

    The Neo-cons are laughing right now at how they convinced the masses that Obama has a Muslim connection.

    I wish a Muslim would be elected to put pressure on Israel to stop their evilness in Palestine, but Israel knows that they have their agents in the Media to say Obama is a Muslim if he gets upset at illegal settlements right around Bethlehem during the phony peace process.

  19. Reme October 27, 2010 @ 11:47 pm

    KathJuliane,

    I read both posts and it took awhile to make more sense.

    Even though I don’t agree too much with the second post, I do agree that the Muslims today coming here from India and Pakistan are nothing like the Arabian-Muslims who the Media portrays as the Southeast Asia Muslim, like with the Turban and women with heavy veils.

    If you look at video footage of Abdel-Nasser’s funeral, most women were not wearing hijabs (hair scarves).

    After ‘79 and the Islamic Revolution in Iran some women began wearing them. I have family in Syria and none wear them except my Grandma, God Bless her.

    Older women in Muslim and Mediterranean Christian and Armenian countries usually wear a scarf liike that.

  20. Brother Nathanael October 28, 2010 @ 2:20 am

    Dear Reme -

    I did not mention a word about Feingold being a Zionist or not.

    I DID mention that he VOTED for Kennedy’s Immigration Acceleration Act and BROKE his promise to his constituents.

    Feingold is a JEW and JEWS like Feingold wish to annihilate Christianity in America. Feingold is a Christ-Hating Jew. Period.

    Now, you say that Jewry wants to create a conflict between Christians and Muslims so as to deflect focus on Jewry’s agenda and thus whoever falls into this plays into the Jews’ hands in this scheme of “Islamophobia.”

    Now, let me tell you this dear Reme.

    I do not FALL INTO ANY ONES’s hands. I do not think any one understands the Jews devilish multifarious wicked agenda which is multi faced in its devilish way than Brother Nathanael Kapner who grew up in an upper middle class synagogue run by Bnai Brith.

    I have concerns about Islam (NOT JEWRY”s GAME) for MY OWN REASONS which is partly outlined in this MAJOR article.

    I am firstly not against anything BUT I am FOR CHRIST and His Holy Church. Period.

    And all ideologies or “religions” that weaken Christ in Culture I am therefore against.

    You say that Muslims “believe” in Jesus Christ. If they did, then why don’t they become Christians?

    I will tell you why. Because Islam DENIES the DIVINITY OF CHRIST - that He is of one essence with the Father, True God of True God Who was incarnate of the Virgin Mary and Became man for OUR salvation. That’s why.

    Islam falsely believes that Christ was no more than a prophet and that a greater prophet appeared with a higher truth 600 years later in the person of Muhammed.

    This is BLASPHEMY! Period. For St Paul instructed with DIVINE AUTHORITY that “if any man preach another Gospel than that which was delivered then let that man be anathema.”

    Some will argue that Islam is the only organized group that is fighting Zionism. That may be well and good.

    But I fight Zionism for the HONOUR of Christ, NOT for the vindication of Muslims - although Christ’s Justice demands redress for the crimes committed against the Palestinian people and I have been fighting for this JUSTICE for three years running since the inception of this site.

    Heshem Talliwi once had me on his radio show 3 years ago. When I stated that the Holy Orthodox Church possesses the Only Truth he got all bent out of shape and started yelling. He never asked me back on his show.

    I had a talk with Reverend Ted Pike yesterday as we talk regularly and our close friends. He reminded me yesterday that Islam has been just as big of a promoter of the Hate Crime Laws and Hate Speech Laws as the Jews.

    America’s inner nature belongs to Christendom NOT Islam.

    In order for America to survive, (and Europe as well of course), its essential character derived from European Christendom which has Orthodox roots MUST BE PRESERVED.

    The influx of Muslims into America with their mosques and militant religious mission has a dis-integrating affect on America’s true inner essence.

    Thilo Sarazzin of Germany said much the same thing about his own country…and he has garnered MUCH applause and acclaim for having the GUTS to say it. His book, “Deutschland Schafft Sich Ab” - “Germany Does Away With Itself” is a BEST SELLER in Germany and for good reason.

    For the influx of Muslims and their plethora of mosques is destroying German historic culture WHICH BELONGS to Christendom!

    I am not afraid to say for my own country!

    Islam will NOT save the world. Christendom is the only hope for our world. And a re-emergence of Christian Imperium as begun by St Constantine the Great of Byzantium in the 4th Century is the world’s ONLY hope.

    The White European Culture people are the bearers of this hope. I outlined this in my latest Video, The Destiny Of America @ http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=566

    Now I turn off my computer until Monday afternoon.

    If you or anyone else wish to attack me for my UNAFRAID position the go right ahead. I will not be online to defend myself.

    In the end, as St Cosmas of Aitolia (a “street evangelist” of the 18th Century throughout Greece and the Balkans) was martyred by both the Jews and Muslims, I accept this as my own fate.

    +Brother Nathanael

  21. Brother Nathanael October 28, 2010 @ 4:15 am

    One more thing -

    The Muslims are already on the attack.

    The Ad Hominems and the Slanders against me have begun.

    If you cannot argue your case in a civil way but must resort to Ad Hominems and Slanders YOU WILL BE BANNED FROM EVERY POSTING ON THIS SITE!

    Moderation Team Take Notice While I Am On My Hiatus.

    The site is GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS and ALREADY this article in LESS THAN 12 hours is moving up to 10,000 Hits!

    +Brother Nathanael

  22. Afghan Mujahideen October 28, 2010 @ 4:45 am

    We Muslims have the right and even more right to stay here since we did everything by the book to get here.

    If Americans kept their leaders in check they wouldn’t be invading us and killing us.

    Jews are using the Gullible blind Christians into attacking our Muslims.

    What a shame it is on the Western people.

  23. Glory B. October 28, 2010 @ 4:54 am

    I am addressing these remarks to those people who are “upset” with +Bro. Nathanael’s appeal for financial help.

    GROW UP, PEOPLE!!!

    You remind me of a seven-year-old child whose mother tells him to clean up his room. You have a tantrum and stomp off from the dinner table, screaming, “You don’t love me.”

    Bro. Nathanael runs one of the most intelligent commentaries on the Internet. His obvious love for America, and his deep and extensive knowledge of the Bible, are among his most endearing characteristics.

    When he chastises someone, he does it gently and without malice. Recently I wrote a post in which I drew a distinction between the wrathful Jewish god of the Old Testament and our loving God, the Messiah Christ Jesus, whose words and works are the basis of the New Testament.

    Bro. Nathanael reminded me, without humiliating me, that God is the same throughout the Bible, that the prophets of the Old Testament predicted the coming of Jesus, and that Christ fulfilled all the prophecies that were made about the Messiah.

    This is the chief reason that led me to shed my life as a Jew (with all the penalties, financial and otherwise, that resulted from my parents and so-called Jewish “friends”) and join the Body of Christ.

    (Other reasons were the vindictiveness and pettiness of the Jew=bastards, their profound hatred of Christ and Christians, which I never felt, their money-grubbing ways, their striving for power, their love of and loyalty to Israel over America, their love of low-class immigrants and foreigners who they could cheat without much effort, their satanic worship of filthy lucre, etc.,etc.).

    If I had encountered Bro. Nathanael’s website years ago, I would have made my decision to be baptized much sooner. But as I learned from his comment, he only started this website three years ago — and look at his productivity.

    It’s amazing how much Bro. Nathanael has accomplished, the number of pieces he has written about the evils of Jewry, now starting the Brother Nathanael Foundation and doing the videos, plus fighting the demonic Jews in his campaign to get a Christmas Nativity scene erected in a park in Frisco, Colorado.

    (I’ll bet the kikes don’t have any problems putting up one of their satanic pitchforks, er, excuse me, menorahs.)

    With all this work and heavy responsibility, not to mention his street evangelism, bringing the message of Our Blessed Lord to unbelieving Jews, when does Bro. Nathanael sleep?

    Of course he needs money in order to meet the many expenses that he faces to keep this website going. I have been privileged to make a donation, and I will continue to do so as long as I can afford it.

    Bro. Nathanael is, like the prophets of old and even like Jesus Christ, a voice crying in the wilderness. And, as Our Lord said, “A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.”

    People, if you want this wonderful website to continue, please, please, please contribute. Where would we be without the wisdom of Bro. Nathanael educating us about the activities and motives of the devilish Jews? We’d be stuck with Talmudvision and jewspapers.

    Please forgive the length of this diatribe, but I do get worked up when I think of how barren life would be without the wise guidance of Bro. Nathanael, and his faithful correspondents like KathJuliane, Brainy Zek, Joe Cortina and yours truly.

    Bro. Nathanael, may Our Lord shower you with blessings and success as you continue in your godly work.

  24. Nicolae October 28, 2010 @ 5:16 am

    To Paul,

    Not all Moslems are Semite but Jews are?

    What is wrong with you? Since when the Jew is Semite? Semitic people are the descendants of Biblical “Shem.

    Relates that the Khazar (Ashkenaz) Jews were/are the sons of Japheth not Shem:

    Bible.

    “Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. The sons of Japheth;…the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz…”
    (Genesis 10:1-3)

    Therefore, the Bible proves that the Ashkenaz Jews [Khazars] are not the descendants of Shem and cannot be Semite.
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Davestar.jpg

    The Jewish Encyclopedia:

    “Khazars, a non-Semitic, Asiatic, Mongolian tribal nation who emigrated into Eastern Europe about the first century, who were converted as an entire nation to Judaism in the seventh century by the expanding Russian nation which absorbed the entire Khazar population, and who account for the presence in Eastern Europe of the great numbers of Yiddish-speaking Jews in Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Galatia, Besserabia and Rumania.”

    The Encyclopedia Judaica (1972):

    “Khazars, a national group of general Turkic type, independent and sovereign in Eastern Europe between the seventh and tenth centuries C.E. During part of this time the leading Khazars professed Judaism…

    “In spite of the negligible information of an archaeological nature, the presence of Jewish groups and the impact of Jewish ideas in Eastern Europe are considerable during the Middle Ages.

    “Groups have been mentioned as migrating to Central Europe from the East often have been referred to as Khazars, thus making it impossible to overlook the possibility that they originated from within the former Khazar Empire.

    The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia:

    “Khazars, a medieval people, probably related to the Volga Bulgars, whose ruling class adopted Judaism during the 8th cent. The Khazars seem to have emerged during the 6th cent., from the vast nomadic Hun (Turki) empire which stretched from the steppes of Eastern Europe and the Volga basin to the Chinese frontier.

    “Although it is often claimed that allusions to the Khazars are found as early as 200 C.E., actually they are not mentioned until 627…Most Jewish Historians date the conversion of the Khazar King to Judaism during the first half of this century {A.D.}..
    http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/Ashkenazis.are.not.the.descendants.of.the.Ancient.Israelites.htm

    The Thirteenth Tribe
    http://www.solargeneral.com/library/13-tribe.pdf

    The Jews of Khazaria by Kevin Alan Brook

    Facts Are Facts, by Benjamin Freedman

    The Kuzari and the Shaping of Jewish Identity, 1167–1900 by Adam Shear

  25. George October 28, 2010 @ 5:33 am

    Dear Reme,

    There are a couple of things which I think you may be missing Islam.

    First of all you only need to read the first book of the Koran and you will see references that appear to be syncretistic between all monotheic religions: Islam, Judaism and Christianity.

    Secondly, there is no strong hierarchical system in Islam that dictates dogmas and Islamic faith.

    Thus statements like “Muslims are true believers in the one GOD. And they believe in Jesus as the Messiah” don’t mean much. Each Imam or Islamic scholar can interpret the Koranic passages as they see fit, and provided they don’t say anything too radically scandalous, they would be spared from being stoned to death by the masses.

    What does a “Messiah” mean in Islam? If Christ was a Messiah, then what was Mohammed? Was Mohammed another Messiah? That would make him an Antichrist by the Christian definition.

    If Christ says that he is the fulfilment of the Prophets, then why do we have Mohammed saying a very similar thing?

    Of course, the good old accusations on behalf of Islam would accuse the Jews, or perhaps Apostle Paul of forging or adultering the message of Christ. So was Christ incompetent at selecting trustworthy disciples, but still a good Messiah? If Christ’s message supposedly couldn’t last 600 years, then what makes Mohammed’s last any longer?

    So by now you should be able to recognise the irreconcilable nature of the True Christ and Islam.

    But let us take a biblical perspective: We believe in the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Notice that this is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The Koran also states God as being the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Ishmael. Ishmael is added amongst the names of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Why Ishmael and Jacob? I will go back to this point a little later.

    The Trinitarian God is represented symbolically in trinity of three generations of men. From this succession line there are two discards: Ishmael and Esau. Ishmael is discarded in favour of Isaac, and Esau is discarded in favour of Jacob.

    The Muslims call upon the name of Ishmael. The Old Testament prophets describe the Jews are becoming more like the stubborn insubordinate Esau. You can now see the conflict of Ishmael and Jacob – they are antagonistic in being the rightful successor of Abraham.

    This is the biblical perspective of Islam and Judaism. Islam is antagonistic of the Trinitarian dogma and clings only to a “Father,” Judaism rejects the Messiah and thus accepts the Antichrist.

    They are both religions that suppress and blind the eyes of mankind from the fullness of truth and instead distract them with the shadow of laws and lifestyles.

    Just examine the attitudes and ways of life between Christians, Jews and Muslims, and you will soon realise that there are much more in common between Jews and Muslims than Christians could have with either.

    Our own food labelling is witness to this. You will find Kosher symbols and Halal symbols on foods. Why don’t Christians worry about foods and feel the need to have them religiously certified?

    I hope you can now see a little more clearly what I am saying. We have two antagonists of Christianity. Their ways and attitudes overlap in many aspects. One governs the money of the world; the other governs the power of the sword where possible.

    Both do not show Christianity any genuine tolerance. Both consider Christianity polytheism and idolatrous. Both reserve the right the kill idolaters and wipe them off the face of the Earth. Do you notice who has to worry?

    It just now happens that Christians are torn between whether to support the Zionist “Messianic” aspirations of many Jews, or the unfortunate Islamic world which has come into a direct conflict with Zionist power – particularly the suffering Palestinians.

    The Christian world has already largely fallen under Zionist control. We strangely don’t feel the need to defend ourselves against either. Just like our Master, the Lord Jesus Christ we suffer painfully, yet quietly on the Cross.

    Zionism has murdered Christian souls. Islam has extinguished Christian nations.

    We await the day when the hand of God will serve His justice and all nations will fall before the heavenly Christ and say “Blessed be He that comes in the name of the Lord.”

  26. x October 28, 2010 @ 6:02 am

    Moslems were not suicidal till recent wars in the Middle East (Jewish agenda).

    ———–

    There are no suicide bombers. it is all lies. Zionist beast is bombing and polices and authorities lie in the name of Zionist beast.

  27. Stav October 28, 2010 @ 6:36 am

    Dear Reme,

    You say:

    “I wish a Muslim would be elected to put pressure on Israel to stop their evilness in Palestine”…

    Be careful what you wish for.

    Muslims indeed “respect” Jesus, but they respect Him as a prophet. But, Jesus Christ is God. And thus, if anyone says that they respect Him as a prophet (i.e. a mere human), they are actually committing ultimate blasphemy, because they give human-only attributes to Him who confessed to the whole world that He Is God.

    Furthermore, as a Greek and Orthodox, I must say that we have first hand experience of being under Muslim rule. Muslims love nothing better than to forcibly convert people to their religion. By forcibly, I mean, brutal, torturous force.

    The number of martyrs and people who were tortured, killed, beheaded, their bodies torn apart during the history of our people has literally no end.

    Islam, is most definitely not a religion of peace and it is not inspired by anything holy or divine. It’s root is a combination of Demonic and personal inspiration, which, right from the beginning was and still is, deeply blasphemous towards God and His Son Jesus Christ.

    I will not even mention the ridiculous outlook it has towards women and the laughable depictions of what Heaven is supposed to be.

    Godly Love towards His creation, us humans, is a non-existent concept. Justice, repentance, salvation and our (Orthodox) Christian knowledge of matters spiritual are all also very much non-existent in Islam.

    The same goes for the concepts of Theosis, the Church and our purpose in this life. All is overshadowed by a obsession towards duties and a cold, hard, all powerful god.

    That’s not the way we Christians see God.

    The result? The result is that any Muslim leader/state, would eventual turn your remarkable country into an oppressed, blood filled desert just like most other Muslim countries are. Do you really want that?

    I will repeat Br. Nathanael’s profound statement that the Truth, the Whole of the Truth, resides ONLY within the Orthodox Church, as given to us by the Lord Jesus Christ the Messiah, the Salvation of our souls, Who is the Truth and the ONLY way to the Father.

    Based on the above and speaking about leaders and states, it is clear what my idea is about all of this. What you and all other nations need, is an Orthodox Christian leader and state, who will inspire with Wisdom, Justice, true freedom without abuse, an instated Christian outlook and ethos.

    ONLY then, will the world correct it self. ONLY then, will we see justice and true resolution to our problems.

    I know what most of you are thinking, it probably sounds totally outlandish.

    But think about it. Even the Christian star of the USA is based eventually on the premises of what Orthodox Christianity presented to the world: A perfect way to live in this world and the Next. Salvation and remission of sins. A God who Loves us all and is personal.

    The Byzantine Empire was the longest standing such Empire and unless we see it or one such a state emerge, the world injustice will continue. I bet not many know much about Byzantium and how it operated for most of it’s long stretch in History. Anyone who is willing to find out the truth can look all this up for them selves.

    No matter how many people do not like to hear this, it is very clear to me: Only a combination of Orthodox Christianity with Classical worldly wisdom and practice can set things straight.

    And in this context, Islam is but a heretical and demonically inspired sect, no matter how many followers it has today. Thus, it has no Divine Grace and thus it is doomed to eventual failure, no matter what it’s current state is.

    Stav

  28. Moshe October 28, 2010 @ 6:41 am

    >>>>>>>As you noticed, I ended this piece with perhaps a startling assertion, that is, the need for a “ruling class” — an authoritative Gentile “elite” to run the Jews off America’s policy-making once and for all.

  29. Moshe October 28, 2010 @ 6:48 am

    >>>>The Muslims are already on the attack.

    The Ad Hominems and the Slanders against me have begun.

  30. Moshe October 28, 2010 @ 6:57 am

    >>>>>I had a talk with Reverend Ted Pike yesterday as we talk regularly and our close friends.

    He reminded me yesterday that Islam has been just as big of a promoter of the Hate Crime Laws and Hate Speech Laws as the Jews.

  31. KC October 28, 2010 @ 7:05 am

    There is no salvation outside of Christ and no salvation is Islam.

    I respect all people but do not compromise my faith.

    We must work at spreading the true Christian message to the non-Christian immigrants, undeformed by the media, and Muslims will see the Truth. I was an immigrant myself.

    Christ is there for all people, but how He is shown in Quran is a FAKE.

    Brother Nat I will pray for you.

  32. Donna chestergimli October 28, 2010 @ 9:04 am

    Folks, let’s no pounce on Remme too much.

    As Christians we believe in Jesus Christ. As a Catholic, I believe firmly in the Catholic Church. But both persuasions have the same enemy — Judaism.

    The Jews are playing us off against one another in order to create tension. Let us not get our tensions directed against the wrong enemy.

    Just as in politics here in the US and elsewhere, they invent at least two parties against each other and the foolish citizens will support the candidates from their party faithfully while the Jews set atop both parties directing all.

    Yes, indeed the Jews direct Islamic politics whether they realize it or not in the same way that they direct Christian politics and all others besides. I have read on another site the the Saud family of Arabia traces their roots back to Judaism and this is why they are on the side of the US and Israel in the Middle East skirmishes.

    This is why the US has made, I believe, the biggest armaments deal with the Saudis ever. I believe that the Saudis will be a relevant enemy of Iran if Iran ever gets attacked.

    Let us hope that Christ returns before then.

  33. Left Coast Christian October 28, 2010 @ 12:13 pm

    Reme

    “I am 110% anti-Zionist and I know you want to defend Christianity, but you don’t have to go anti-Muslim to do it”

    Where are you getting this idea from?

    Bro Nate always discusses the Zionist Jew problems of the world and seldom overlaps unnecessarily with Islam or other such things.

    Also, even if he were, a little history lesson for you: Islam has been at war with Christendom since it’s very existence! So there’s nothing wrong pointing out the threat of Islam already there.

    If you actually read parts of the Koran, you’ll learn that it gives Muslims permission to either subject the infidels to a tax OR eventually slay them if they don’t convert.

    Christianity gives no such permission. Yes there have been Christians that have not followed this teaching, but Islam gives them clear cut permission to do so.

    And yes, Islam IS a threat to the Western world always has been, and sadly will be for quite some time. BUT Zionist Jews are doing everything they can for there to be an outright war between the West and Islam, which is unnecessary. Make sense?

    Moshe

    Stay strong my friend, Muslims are cowards and will only use ad hominem attacks when they know themselves to be false.

  34. Left Coast Christian October 28, 2010 @ 12:17 pm

    Brother Nate,

    Btw, you have EVERY right to insist that people who frequent this site cough up a ONE figure donation every once in a while.

    You do all the work, and all people on this site have to do is keep themselves informed and educated, THAT’S IT.

    I sent a small donation yesterday, hope more people will follow.

  35. Andrew Jackson October 28, 2010 @ 12:53 pm

    Very well said dear Nathanael!

    May St. Cosmas of Aitolia intercede for you and help you!

    As you said, Christ and His Orthodoxy are the only hope for the world. All others are liars and deceived mere human beings with no spiritual power to even save themselves from death.

    We have many reliable witnesses who have recorded the mighty words and deeds of Christ our God. All men are called to examine the record and accept the salvation He offers them freely.

    A political alliance with Islam would be the greatest mistake that any Christian who is fighting Zionism and Judaism would do. Both Judaism and Islam are anti-christ religions, even though Judaism is much worse both doctrinally and practically.

    Judaism is a cancer inside traditionally Christian societies, corroding and erasing all vestiges of the Christian heritage in the West, and subverting the worship of the True God.

    Much of the responsibility falls on the Christian heterodox (the heretics) themselves, who have been gradually and inexorably departing from Christian Orthodoxy since at least 1054 Anno Domini.

    In Christ Yahweh (Ο ΩΝ),
    AJ

  36. Duke Mantee October 28, 2010 @ 2:32 pm

    I agree 100% with everything Brother Nathanael has said.

    He said it better than I ever could.

    Those criticizing Brother Nathanael for soliciting funds should be ashamed.

    Some commentors now and in the past have tried to place Islam on an even keel with Christianity as brothers against Judaism and that is plain wrong.

    Jesus Christ is the One True Lord and there is no salvation apart from Him. To consider Jesus as a mere prophet however great and promote Mohammed as his equal, is blasphemy and of the Devil.

    Everybody who does not confess that Jesus Christ is God in the flesh is an antichrist, period. No ifs, ands, or buts. Judaism and Islam are both antichristian. Judaism and Islam are two sides of the same false coin and their followers need to repent and convert.

    There is no other way.

    Come soon, Lord Jesus.

  37. Christian swede October 28, 2010 @ 2:52 pm

    I didn’t know that ex-Jews like you exist, Brother Nathanael.

    You expose the Jewish anti-Christian agenda in Hollywood, all the media, Bolshevism/Communism, their massive support for Mass Immigration and so forth.

    I always believed that the Jews were the Christians’ best friends, that Muslims were the only anti-Christian people. I read all that in the Christian Zionist papers. Now I know more.

    I started first to realize the Jewish power in Hollywood when I made a little inquiry on the Hollywood celebrities descent/ethnicity.

    I was always shocked when I saw how anti-Christian the Hollywood movies are, because this was not the picture that I had gotten from the average American. I always regarded the average American as a devout Christian.

    Now when I’ve read all the information on yours and other sites, I finally know what kind people it is who are behind this. I also know now that Bolshevism were led by Jews and so forth.

    The Christian Zionists lured me in to believing Israel and Jews are the true friend of Christians and so so forth. After reading more texts from your site I realize mostly everything about this Anti-Christian agenda.

    Thank you for all the information Brother Nathanael. May God bless you.

  38. charlie October 28, 2010 @ 3:23 pm

    “Muslims are cowards”

    I’ve met plenty of coward Christians, never met a coward Muslim.

    I’ll keep looking and keep you posted.

    Glory B I had a lot of respect for you till you posted those ridiculous websites on the previous thread. You have no discernment.

    Hitler worked with Zionist Organizations before the war and with other countries to move 300,000 Jews to Palestine. No mention of that in the Jewish history books.

    There is not one piece of credible evidence that Jews were systematically slaughtered in the concentration work camps.

    There is not one piece of credible evidence that gas ovens ever existed.

    If there was, the Jews would be falling over themselves to show it and show it ad infinitum. Not even in any so called “holocaust museum,” and I have been to the one in Jerusalem.

    Is there one iota of evidence of gas chambers? Which if they did exist, then do the math. They would never have been able to exterminate 6 million in 6 years, more than the entire dead on all sides in Europe in the war itself, with the exception possibly of Russia whose Jew leaders used untrained soldiers as cannon fodder.

    Where is the hue and cry from Russians over their holocaust which is more recent in their memory than the myth of Auchwitz et alia.

    Empty vessels make the most sound.

    And it makes the sound “Holocaust,” not even Jewish holocaust mind, simply “holocaust” and you know why this sound is perpetuated about a myth that never happened.

    Its because Jews don’t regard others as human, therefore their slaughter is not a holocaust nor is it worth mentioning.

    The Jewish myth is more important than the non-Jewish reality to them.

    We are not like the duplicitous Jews as long as we refuse to be Judaized, as Christ has paid the penalty for our sins.

  39. Moshe October 28, 2010 @ 4:50 pm

    How strange?

    My posts did not appear - just the start of the quote I took from Brother Nathanael.

    Here is what I wrote in those 3 posts - for posterity…

    ———————————————–

    – As you noticed, I ended this piece with perhaps a startling assertion, that is, the need for a “ruling class” — an authoritative Gentile “elite” to run the Jews off America’s policy-making once and for all. –

    Well, like they say in the R.O.C…”there is no democracy in heaven…”

    With the obvious conclusion…”so why on earth?”

    Unfortunately my ethnic Irish blood will not tolerate a dictatorship no matter how benevolent.

    But then…that’s only my opinion.

    Let the people decide.

    Let’s just hope your future “dictator” is not a groomed Jewish puppet.

    – The Muslims are already on the attack.

    The Ad Hominems and the Slanders against me have begun. –

    Dearest Bro Nathanael,

    You KNOW the R.O.C. has always lived in peace with Islam.

    Peace can be settled between adults in an adult conversation with Islam once the Jew is removed from power.

    A balance will return.

    But then - pray, as you say you are doing. Pray that the Holy Spirit guides you in the direction you must take on this matter.

    “Blessed are the peace makers.”

    Muslims have suffered enough under judeochurchianity.

    “God brings together. Satan tears apart.”

    But then - have at it. Lets see who is left standing in the morning. I fear it will only be the Jew.

    Right now we need Islam and Christianity together. Not at each other’s throats.

    – I had a talk with Reverend Ted Pike yesterday as we talk regularly and our close friends. He reminded me yesterday that Islam has been just as big of a promoter of the Hate Crime Laws and Hate Speech Laws as the Jews. –

    WHO was promoting these laws? The Muslim leadership? And they are just as much in the pockets of the Jew as the evangelical nut bags. In fact - most of them are probably crypto Jews.

    Brother Nathanael…consider backing off this path, and consider the supple nature of Christ and His Truth. Bend like a reed in the wind :-)

    What would Jesus do! I say He would embrace Muslims and say what wonderful people they are to still welcome Westerners into the Middle East after 60+ years of torture.

    Where Christ is revered as a GREAT PROPHET and who can blame anyone for having trouble with the concept of the mystical Trinity?

    I love your site, I wish I had a dime to give you and I laugh out loud at every one of your passionate videos of Truth.

    :-)———

  40. Moshe October 28, 2010 @ 4:53 pm

    I CANT BELIEVE THIS QUOTE!!!!!!

    FROM “Stav”…

    – Furthermore, as a Greek and Orthodox, I must say that we have first hand experience of being under Muslim rule. Muslims love nothing better than to forcibly convert people to their religion. By forcibly, I mean, brutal, torturous force. –

    I take you have no knowlege of the Church in Europe and how it came to be?

    Have you heard of Saladin? Dear God man! You HAVE to be a Jew or perhaps Lenny Bruce :-)

    Islam has been FAR MORE considerate of Christianity than Christianity has of Islam.

    You make me ashamed to be a Christian to hear words like that.

    Let us ask this simple question…”What would Jesus do?” And He would NOT want you as one of His Disciples.

  41. Moshe October 28, 2010 @ 4:57 pm

    Well, one must look on the bright side - no one is discussing Jews, Judaism or Zionism.

    Abe is happy :-)

  42. KC October 28, 2010 @ 5:40 pm

    Moshe,

    It seems like this from far away. Go to a Muslim majority country like Pakistan or Egypt, and try to preach Gospel..

    My sense is that regardless of race those who are Christians must work very hard to educate others about what is their faith.

    Through life, culture, and dialogue. We have to set an example, and that will not happen with Jew culture obviously.

    Its easy for immigrants to open minds, because especially in the younger generation, many are starting from scratch.

    So…the arguments against Islam can go forever on, but my point is, Christians should be Christians…and others will follow. There is so much potential, see it.

    KC

  43. Disgusted White Christian October 28, 2010 @ 6:30 pm

    FINDING TRUTH IN THE AGE OF DELUSION
    By Rev. Ted Pike
    25 Oct 10

    Since I began my literary and video criticism of Jewish supremacism in the mid-1980s, various attempts to discredit me have been made.

    The first was a national campaign by Norman Lear’s People for the American Way in 1988. More recently, the Anti-Defamation League and Southern Poverty Law Center have attacked.

    Various other groups, sometimes boasting as Jewish “experts,” have tried but similarly failed, sliding off the Teflon barrier of sound reasoning and impeccable documentation.

    Still, some readers are disoriented by these seemingly credible attacks. What are the steps a person must take to find the truth in a conflict?

    When it comes to the Jewish agenda — and other controversial truths such as racial/gender differences or creationism — there is a great price to pay for taking the unpopular view. Most human beings fear man, not God and His truth.

    They reflexively and emotionally think of their own self-interest first. Even without realizing it, this egoism creates an intense, knee-jerk desire to reject painful or taboo truths, even if our intellect quietly says they might be right.

    For this reason, the main impediment to finding truth is not intellectual but spiritual. Man must somehow be emboldened to attain a higher level of courage and conviction.

    The very first step for any truth seeker is to bow his knees before God, yielding himself and his whole life to God and asking for the willingness to pay any price for the sake of knowing truth and being on God’s side.

    “If this is God’s truth, the whole truth about vital moral issues,” we must pray, “I will face any offense or shame or loss of friends in order to defend it, to defend You.”

    Christ Himself is the Truth — the Logos, the explanatory principle and deepest of all realities. When we are servants of God’s truth, we know Him. When we sacrifice for that truth, we draw closer to Christ, who paid the ultimate price for it.

    Christ promised that His Spirit will lead us into all truth (John 16:13) as we become His disciples through yielding to God absolutely everything we are and possess. (Matthew 10:37)

    This is the first and most central step toward finding and knowing the whole truth, especially about controversial and painful subjects. The second is to fearlessly compare new ideas with established fact, especially with the help of Biblical revelation.

    However, if we look merely at surfaces and are not led by the Spirit of God in self-surrender and true logic, we will be deceived. Because evil is not bound by the truth and is demonically empowered, it is often intellectually acute, devious and charming.

    As a result, it can often outperform and out-debate those who simply tell the truth, sometimes in weakness and limitations.

    God has in fact not chosen the “wise” and strong—the philosophers and debaters of this age—to be His defenders. (1 Corinthians 1)

    Today, Christians are so conditioned to fear and loathe anti-Semitism that they react emotionally, not rationally, to any criticism of evil Jewish leaders. (This reflexive, irrational response can also be observed toward other politically taboo statements, such as about racial differences or Holocaust inaccuracies.)

    Most Christians instinctively describe criticism of evil Jews as “hate” (cursing God’s chosen people) and want to flee the conflict altogether. One thing frightened Christians almost never do is research “anti-Semitic” claims to see if they are substantiated.

    In 1987, popular local talk show host Lew Davies accused me of anti-Semitism for two and a half afternoons on Oregon/Washington radio, even though he had never read my book or watched my video The Other Israel. Tens of thousands of listeners were alienated from me and our family’s Christian/conservative pioneering leadership in the Northwest.

    In the following months and years, not one Christian wrote or called to ask about the sources I might present to justify my views critical of Jewish supremacism. (These include extensive documentation from Jewish encyclopedias, Talmud and Zohar, testimony from Jews themselves, etc.)

    Jesus promised that if we seek, we will find. But in order to truly seek, we must actually want the whole truth, even if it costs us social comfort, friends, or even freedom.

    Few Christians want truth substantiating the threat of Jewish supremacy. They have a deep, visceral fear of how this truth would incur the anger of people around them. It’s far easier to simply dismiss Ted Pike as an anti-Semitic hater and be done with the issue, fleeing danger as fast as possible.

    Clearly, the availability of truth isn’t really the problem. Honest inquiry could fairly rapidly lead a person to see that my writings agree with Christ and the Hebrew prophets.

    The problem is the inability of most Christians to be willing to pay any price for truth. Babylon the Great, international Zionist control, is continuing to rise in power and corruption of the world, just as Scripture repeatedly predicts. “Israel-first” evangelicals will be judged for refusing to face this deeply important warning.

    If the problem really is spiritual, how much can a truthteller argue with those who aren’t even interested in the whole truth?

    Jesus rarely debated the insincere. The Pharisees repeatedly claimed that Jesus could not be Messiah since, they thought, he was born in Nazareth. On the authority of Scripture, they said, Messiah can only come from Bethlehem.

    Jesus could easily have set the record straight, but He wanted to test the people to see if they would believe according to the deeper, more substantial realities of His message and person.

    A few would. Most wouldn’t. Similarly, when Paul visited far regions of the Mediterranean and asked if people knew about Christianity, some did but said it had a bad reputation; it was “everywhere spoken against.”

    God allows lies to spread about Himself and His servants so that people will have to make a spiritual decision about whether to accept controversy and possible loss in order to know the whole truth.

    At National Prayer Network, our ministry is remarkably free of substantive criticism after 26 years of total truthtelling about the Zionist danger. Yet God allows liars such as ADL and the SPC to be available to those wanting a “quick fix” to remove the vexing possibility that I am speaking the truth.

    Just as God allows Satan’s existence, so He allows very tangible alternatives to the whole truth for those who are insincere. Will we look to God and use faith, reason, and truly honest inquiry—or will we take the path of least resistance and choose socially rewarding half-truths and lies?

    God wants to test and judge those who don’t want truth. There is a limit to how much I or any truthteller can respond to every quibble or accusation. Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands are coming to the whole, Biblical truth about Judaism and Israel at Truthtellers.org and are thanking God for what we are doing.

    (Adapted from Rev. Ted Pike’s recent Bible study, “Finding Truth in the Age of Delusion” at Truthtellers.org . Click here to listen.)

    Rev. Ted Pike is director of the National Prayer Network, a Christian/conservative watchdog organization.

    TALK SHOW HOSTS: Interview Rev. Ted Pike on this subject. Call (503) 631-3808.

    http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/findingtruthinageofdelusion.htm

    DWC

  44. Theodor October 28, 2010 @ 7:22 pm

    We Greeks have 3 million martyrs killed by the Muslim Turks during 5 centuries of occupation and know well that Islam is an antichristian religion.

    We don’t hate Muslims though.

  45. Arjan October 28, 2010 @ 7:58 pm

    It is not only immigration, but it is also the fact that white Christians pay for non whites to have babies, while they themselves have none.

    I call on white Christians to accept all the white Christian children that God wants to bless them with, and to stop using birth control.

    Right now whites comprise 10% of the world population, down from 30% one hundred years ago.

    There are no none white countries in the world where white people can go and multiply en mass, at those countries’ expense, so do it here and now!

  46. Disgusted White Christian October 28, 2010 @ 8:17 pm

    45 members of a tribe, that is less than 2% of our population, and just about all those Democrats, support unregulated 3rd World immigration.

    That is to the USA of course, not Israel though?

    It is ALWAYS “do as I say, not as I do” with the Zionist Jew.

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/jewcong111.html

    DWC

  47. stan kohls October 28, 2010 @ 8:29 pm

    So, Jews are trying to bring Moslem immigrants to America.

    Does that make any sense at all?

  48. Miranda October 29, 2010 @ 12:29 am

    I am praying for you, Brother, and understand your taking time for contemplation on your firm proposal.

    It is either fight, or die.

  49. Hoff October 29, 2010 @ 2:08 am

    So, Jews are trying to bring Moslem immigrants to America.

    Does that make any sense at all?
    ===

    Hoff: Yes it does. The Jews uses the Moslems as useful idiots, the Jews pit the Moslems against the white people. The Jews do this wholesale in Europe. First the Jews are behind the 3 world mass immigration.

    They don’t fit in and next the Jews pit white people against the Moslems.

    And to the Zionist Jews a Jew who live outside of lsrealHELL and who refuses to move to the Zionist terrorist entity is a useless Jew. If the Zionist Jews can scare off one Jew to their hellhole and it would take ten million Moslems to do that, the Jews will import ten million Moslems to any white country.

    lt’s a Win-Win for the Jews.

  50. George October 29, 2010 @ 3:32 am

    Dear Moshe,

    If you can’t believe the quote of Stav, then simply speak to Christians from Egypt, Syria, and particularly Turkey - the few that are left.

    Furthermore speak to the Christian missionaries that have tried to go the Saudi kingdom to preach - if any managed to do so and come back alive.

    More so consider the following fact: the ears of the European populace ring of the complaints of Muslims who wish to build mosques vs the Christian minorities who are not even allowed to have public places of worship in several Middle Eastern nations where there was never a strong presence of Christians such as Saudi Arabia.

    Lastly look many of those historic mosques in the Middle East. Many are churches confiscated off Christians. This includes the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem, which used to be a church dedicated to the Annunciation and the Hagia Sophia cathedral of Constantinople which was a mosque and now a dead museum.

    So in brief: Might is right!

  51. x October 29, 2010 @ 4:59 am

    Another Zionist Masonic murder of innocents while they are Bin Laden, Al Qaida and even finance insurgents, and Taliban and all terror and war on the globe.

    And all the while lie to the whole globe. Pure murder by Zionist beast mafia guilty of crimes against humanity.

    NATO Helicopter Crew Kills 20 Afghan Insurgents.

  52. Cavalier October 29, 2010 @ 6:09 am

    Yes it makes sense.

    You have to understand the Jews need to destroy racial and cultural cohesion in order to bring about their new world order.

    Since their victory in WWII they have set about insuring the fact that America and Europe will never again be able to oppose them.

    The Muslims are a proxy by which they can attain and retain control without exposing themselves to the masses. They don’t intend for Islam to dominate, just to create chaos.

    Chaos they can control.

  53. Fr. John October 29, 2010 @ 6:27 am

    Have you heard Kevin De Anna speak? I think he puts it all into proper perspective.

    As I’ve chronicled:

    http://thewhitechrist.wordpress.com/2010/10/29/the-rules-have-changed-and-you-old-white-guys-arent-listening/

  54. Fr. John October 29, 2010 @ 6:33 am

    “Let us ask this simple question…”What would Jesus do?” And He would NOT want you as one of His Disciples.”

    Moshe. You are not God, you are not even a Priest. You should be careful of what you say, especially when the blood of Christian martyrs are concerned.

    St. Theodosius of the Kiev Caves clearly outlined the TRUE way to understand our enemies. He said:

    “Love your enemies, but only your Personal Enemies, and NOT the Enemies of God.”

    Talmudic Judaism, Islam, and Christian Zionism are the enemies of God, both by their denial of the finished work on Calvary (the ripping of the Temple curtain from top to bottom, thus denying any future ‘Third Temple’ from the CZ’s POV) as well as their denial that Christ God IS God Incarnate.

    All other POV’s, frankly, are demonic to the core. Christ is God, He is the savior of mankind, and the Church is His theanthropic body here on Earth.

  55. marshall[Maher-shalal-hash-baz] October 29, 2010 @ 7:05 am

    I agree with George that the “Jews” and Muslims are the two antagonists of Christianty, whose attitudes over lap in many aspects.

    This might explain the ever increasing pace of the attempt of the “Jews” to destroy Christianity in America.

    Perhaps these “Jews” in their heart of darkness sense that Iran will nuke “Israel” and in their absolutely unrepentant hearts of stone know that they will have no where to run.

    Henceforth will commence the absolute total anarchy and chaos that arrives with the attitude of “if we can’t have you [any country with “Jews”] nobody will.”

    The spawn of Satan, running wild, their “souls” destroyed by “Talmudvision,” even though weighing in at 300 lbs or more by the obesity epidemic of hopelessness, still being able to get their chubby fingers around the trigger of a gun!

    Dragging the Park Ave “Jews” out of their worthless million dollar apartments, while they scream “YES! THERE IS A HOLOCAUST, IT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW!!!”

  56. Disgusted White Christian October 29, 2010 @ 7:34 am

    Stan Kohls

    Yes, to water down White Christian America.

    Places like Ukraine, Russia, and the other Slavic areas, immigration is CLOSELY regulated.

    Zionist Jews, see them as “White Christians” which Bro Nate has asserted, as their perceived enemy before Islam.

    DWC

  57. x October 29, 2010 @ 9:33 am

    Chosenites are expanding their theory.

    Do you see the joke?

    The U.S.-Israel link: Two peoples chosen by God

  58. Disgusted White Christian October 29, 2010 @ 9:39 am

    “More so consider the following fact: the ears of the European populace ring of the complaints of Muslims who wish to build mosques vs the Christian minorities who are not even allowed to have public places of worship in several Middle Eastern nations where there was never a strong presence of Christians such as Saudi Arabia.”

    To Marshall and George.

    Many of those HOSTILE Muslim countries to Christianity have Zionist influence behind them. Such as Saudi Arabia. The poster I8Zionist, whom is Muslim, said as much. He said the Saudi family, has Jew roots.

    Conversely, Iran, whom the Zionist Jew would have us believe is “Christianity’s enemy” has parks there, where Christian symbols are openly presented. I have seen them on the net.

    Hey George, Marshall, try that in New York:

    To have openly Christian symbols, in a country, by the way, that is about 85% Christian, see how far you get?

    Five Zionist Jew organizations will be down your throat, starting with ACLU (nothing but communist Jews and their Christian puppets) with a multi-million dollar lawsuit!

    DWC

  59. x October 29, 2010 @ 12:08 pm

    Zionist Al Qaeda again, of course.

    Al Qaeda Suspected in Package Scare (video).

  60. Words of Wisdom October 29, 2010 @ 12:20 pm

    I am Christian and I believe that the only way to heaven is through Jesus Christ.

    That being said, we are at a difficult point in the world right now. If we are going to prevail against these evil Jewish leaders, we will need everyone we can to help us!

    We can not afford to alienate people of other faiths just because they do not accept Jesus Christ as their savior.

  61. Stav October 29, 2010 @ 12:33 pm

    Dear Moshe,

    I think you have no idea of what you are talking about. Let me reply to your post line by line:

    You say:

    “I CANT BELIEVE THIS QUOTE!!!!!!”

    You better believe it!!! See below:

    You say:

    “I take you have no knowlege of the Church in Europe and how it came to be?”

    I take it, that you, in turn, don’t have any knowledge of the TRUE Church in Europe, which was and IS the Orthodox Church.

    Unlike the more outspoken and high profile Catholic and Protestant “Churches,” which maimed, killed and tortured, the Orthodox Church never used such force, (although it’s people never tortured other human beings) unless either defending it self (in many cases even against these other “Churches”).

    In addition, it is really you, that does not understand how the Churches came to be. And this is the root of your problems.

    You say:

    “Have you heard of Saladin? Dear God man! You HAVE to be a Jew or perhaps Lenny Bruce”

    I assure you, I am a fellow “citizen” of God’s New Israel, Which is the Orthodox Church. Saladin? Read further and see the real truth:

    You say:

    “Islam has been FAR MORE considerate of Christianity than Christianity has of Islam.”

    First off, lets separate the “Churches” and “Christianity” from THE Church and THE Christians.

    The Churches you are thinking about, are the result of heresies, gnosticism and sheer arrogance. The Church I am talking about, which is the Orthodox Church, is the TRUE Church which has kept it’s given Holy Traditions unchanged from the start.

    Secondly, it is true that Turkish Muslims, have IMPALED, TORTURED, KILLED, etc. etc. tens of Thousands, Hundreds of Thousands if not Millions of Greek Orthodox Christians, while enjoying it immensely. They did this in the name of Allah, and simply because the Greeks were Christians.

    There is no denying this and if you do, your ignorance is showing clearly.

    As a couple of recent examples of the “considerate” demeanor of Muslims today, take a look at what happened in Cyprus in 1974 and in Smyrna circa 1914. The thousands killed and tortured by your “considerate” Muslims, the disembowelments of pregnant women etc. etc.

    The razor knifes used to cut our Bishop’s ears and nose and his dragging in the town of Smyrna leaving a train of blood in its path. Yes! all of that transpired and was committed by your “considerate” Muslims in the 20th Century.

    Please leave your ignorance and turn to the Truth and all your problems will be solved.

    You say:

    “You make me ashamed to be a Christian to hear words like that.”

    What should make you ashamed, is not my words, dear Moshe, but the truth of the western version of Christianity, which has taken something pure and has mutated it into a blasphemous and bloody enterprise. And you should be ashamed, of talking with conviction of what you know nothing about.

    You say:

    “Let us ask this simple question…”What would Jesus do?” And He would NOT want you as one of His Disciples.”

    Let us ask this question: If Jesus if the Truth and the Way and Salvation, then why are you and so many others, IGNORING the Truth, not bothering to Find it and Him, and continue to spread what is merely your opinion and the cause of the deterioration of Christianity today?

    Stav

    Leave a comment

  62. Disgusted White Christian October 29, 2010 @ 12:44 pm

    Edwin M. Wright (pictured) http://www.trumanlibrary.org/oralhist/77-3876.jpg

    Was a State Department employee in the 1940s and 1950s, excerpts from his recollections concerning Zionist control over America make for some absolutely eye opening reading:

    Edwin Wright: Zionist Jews Worked to Capture US Government

    The Truman Library

    I might mention here that I have found Zionism very deceitful. There is a double meaning in all the words Zionists use, and [Chaim] Weizmann himself said one time, ‘Let the British or anyone else talk about Zionism and they can use our terminology, but we know what the meaning of it is.

    It has one meaning to us, one meaning to the Gentiles.’ They’ve always had this double-entendre in everything that they have done. Whenever they use words you have to try to find out what is the context in which they are using these words.

    Domestic issues are not based on intelligence, but on self interest of a smaller group, and I think in this connection I think I should mention specifically two.

    One was what we called the China Lobby, a very odd and indiscriminate group of people who never were really organized, but had a tremendous influence upon government.

    They eventually were captured by Senator [Joseph R.] McCarthy. The other were the Zionists, who were more organized. They had been working for a long time to capture the U.S. Government; to use it for purposes of developing a Jewish state.

    In other words, we had two lobby groups in America who knew little about the area at all, who had certain ideological concepts of society and America.

    When the people from the fields reported what was unpopular to these groups, they were fired.

    …when the election was coming up in 1946 in New York, the group of New York Jews called upon Mr. Truman. [Alan Taylor, op. cit. p.93] Emmanuel Cellar was the head of this committee.

    Rabbi Steven Wise and several others were in it. They called upon Mr. Truman and said, ‘We have just been talking with Mr. [Tom] Thomas Dewey. He is willing to come out and declare for a Jewish state, and we are going to turn our money and urge the Jews to vote for him unless you beat him to it.’

    Then Emmanuel Cellar pounded upon Mr. Truman’s desk and said, ‘And if you don’t come out for a Jewish state we’ll run you out of town.’

    Henry Byroade made a talk in Philadelphia in April 1954. …In it he made this statement: ‘I have some advice for both Arabs and for Jews.

    Israel should think of itself as a state living in the Middle East and that it must live with its Arab neighbors. The Arabs must cease to think of themselves as wanting to destroy Israel and should come to terms with Israel itself.’ …

    The next morning Henry Byroade got a call from Nathan Goldman, who was in California. [Nathan Goldman was president of the World Jewish Congress and many years president of the World Zionist Organization…] He used his first name and said, ‘Hank, did you make that speech in Philadelphia that was reported in the papers today?’

    Byroade said, ‘Yes, I made that speech.’

    He said, ‘We will see to it that you’ll never hold another good position.’

    The Zionists are organized in 17 (now 31) different committees and groups in America. They are all inter-related by what’s called the Association of Presidents of Major Jewish Organizations. These are the presidents of the 31 Zionist organizations.

    All they have to do is to send in a letter to any one of them and these 31 will reproduce it in mimeograph and send it out to all their organizations. As a result of one letter you’ll get hundreds of replies coming in attacking me.

    This is the type of constant fear that a Government official lives under because of the mimeograph machine and the xerox machine.

    Mr. Truman himself has the most remarkable of all statements in there, a memo that’s quoted, in which he says, ‘Something’s going on and I don’t know what it is. Somebody called up the President of Haiti and he said that it was I.

    [F.R.U.S., 1947 , Vol. V, p. 1309.] He said, “We want you to vote for the Zionist program.” As a result the President of Haiti changed his vote to satisfy what he thought was me. I don’t know who this fellow was that called him up.’

    In other words, somebody impersonated President Truman and threatened the President of Haiti. There were people who used President Truman’s voice and name and he didn’t know who they were.

    The State Department never found out who they were, but this is the way decisions are made in Washington. I think I know who that fellow was. It was Robert Nathan, because I met Robert Nathan frequently at the U.N.

    I had met him out in the Middle East, and he was the one who was running to the telephone booth and calling up the President of Liberia, calling up Costa Rica, telling them, “Unless you will vote for our program, we will see to it that the American interhighway system is not built through your country.”

    These people assumed that Nathan and Co. were acting for America and nobody had consulted them at all. This kind of thing went on at the U.N. and in Washington and if you want the documentary proof of it, it’s in Mr. Truman’s statement.

    Before I read this statement of Mr. Truman’s I’ll have to explain what the situation was. There was tremendous pressure upon the governments of other countries to vote for the partition program, which the Zionists had accepted.

    I was at the U.N. and was Mr. Henderson’s assistant and was there when he read some of these memos. I was reporting back to the State Department what was happening at the U.N.

    There were a number of Jewish Zionists at the U.N., like Robert Nathan, Bernard Baruch, and various other people, who were calling up the chiefs of other states and saying, “Unless you vote for this partition program, the United States will not build a road in your country; will not help you in aid or will not do something else.”

    They were pretending they had the authority of the President of the United States to determine policy, when they were just one individual operating on their own. They had no authority, no official position, but they were using the importance of the United States as a threat against these countries.

    That’s an official document. Somebody represented himself as the President of the United States to some foreign countries. This was the kind of threat that the Zionists used to change votes at that last session when finally it was voted by a small majority of two or three.

    It’s very rare that a country of which no boundaries are known is recognized. There are also other questions: When you recognize a state do you recognize its claims to people outside the state? The Zionists have always claimed that the Jewish nation is wherever a Jew is, anywhere in the world.

    Every Jew, therefore, is part of this Jewish nation. Golda Meir repeated this when they asked her what the boundaries of Israel are. She said, ‘Wherever there’s a Jew, there is Israel. It’s not a line on a map.’

    ‘Constantly they kept asking me, “Why does the United States behave this way?” I couldn’t explain it to them.’

    Nobody can explain it, because you’ve got to know how they buy congressional and senatorial votes through speeches; how they control the five electoral states, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, etc. You have to understand the weighting of the Jewish vote in America and the contribution to the party systems.

    By the time we explained that to Arabs they’d say, ‘But aren’t you corrupt?’

    The answer is, ‘Yes, we’re corrupt.”

    Full article here:
    http://www.trumanlibrary.org/oralhist/wright.htm

    DWC

  63. Disgusted White Christian October 29, 2010 @ 1:14 pm

    “Unlike the more outspoken and high profile Catholic and Protestant “Churches,” which maimed, killed and tortured, the Orthodox Church never used such force,”- Stav

    That is just bigotry Stav, every church or religious institution has used some kind of violence that goes against God’s Laws.

    You are not being realistic?

    I remember a few threads back, you tired to say the “Fatima Miracles” where from Satan? You should keep your mouth SHUT about things you CLEARLY have little knowledge of!

    I had this Mormon read me the riot act about all the murder, and abuse of the Catholic Church, until I reminded him of the “Mountain Meadows massacre” in which he clammed up real fast!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Meadows_massacre

    DWC

  64. Selma October 29, 2010 @ 2:12 pm

    Now a recovered leftist, I learned — hopefully not too late for our nation and our children’s futures — that friends don’t let friends vote Jewish.

  65. Disgusted White Christian October 29, 2010 @ 3:28 pm

    Selma,

    I hope you go out with all God’s graces, because it is a miracle that you were enlightened to this REALITY, don’t expect it from your neighbors, friends, or family members?

    If you do understand what I am talking about, read my post earlier up this thread, or at this URL below, from the Rev Ted Pike, he explains it brilliantly.

    You are going to deal with brainwashing the likes you have NEVER seen before, and also
    attacked like you could never imagine.

    But as Christ stated, you will suffer greatly for my words: which are the TRUTH!

    One thing the Zionist Jew hates the most is the TRUTH, so do his puppets!

    http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/findingtruthinageofdelusion.htm

    DWC

  66. x October 29, 2010 @ 4:23 pm

    See this, “anonymity” and “same group” do you see the joke?

    Of course it is the same group, Zionist beast as always, haha.

    The president refrained from assigning blame to Yemen’s al-Qaida branch, but officials who spoke on condition of anonymity said they were increasingly certain that was the source. The same group was responsible for the attempted bombing of a U.S.-bound airliner last Christmas.

  67. Frank L October 29, 2010 @ 4:31 pm

    Islam, you all have to understand something about that cult.

    There are two types of Islam. The Medinah Islam where Muslims were the minority and played the peace and love card. Then you have the second Islam, Mecca Islam, when the Muslims were the majority, and Muhammad limited, robbed, taxed, enslaved, and killed non Muslims.

    Also, the end times prophecies of Islam tells Muslims to openly commit full out jihad on non-Muslims, which they are doing now, WITH THE HELP OF THE CRIMINAL JEWS.

    Tell me, what is the difference here between Judaism and Islam? They are both enemies of God and His people, they are rebelling against Christ and His people, for Muslims are perverts that should be rejected and confronted when they decide to Jihad.

    The Muslims will soon destroy Europe and soak the streets with blood, the Christians will not win this war, but Christ Jesus will avenge the deaths of Christians by Muslims and Jews when Christ Jesus returns as God to do Judgement.

    Muslims and Jews are destructive forces and their target, Christians and the Caucasian race, will suffer and 3/4 will be killed in their hands, but they will not get away with it, for Christ Jesus will return to bring Judgement and Justice.

    Br. Nathanael, the reason why the Satanic Vatican elite and rabbis engineered Islam to have a non divine Christ is because they wanted to compare Christ to the Pope, and the way to do that was by calling Christ just a prophet, which is what the feeble Arab mind saw the Pope as to Christians, a prophet.

    Therefore, the Vatican and rabbis thought that the Arabs would bow down to the Pope as a prophet, but the plot backfired and you have the second scourge of Cain, the Muslims, helping the criminal Jews, pushing the thorn into True Israel/Christians’ side.

    Br. Nathanael is right, for we must stand up to the antichrists and not back down even though we are outnumbered and overpowered by them.

    Let me tell you Br. Nathanael, if you thought the physical attacks from a few New York wall street scumbag criminal Jews is something, you should see the gang jumps that the Muslims do to people they hate. Both the evil and criminal Jews and Muslims have the wrath of Satan.

    The dfference between the two is that there are more Muslims and because of their kenite and Turkic nature, are historically known to be very nasty and cruel people. From Muslim to Jew, the Mark of Cain is that evil “reptilian/serpent/nachash” blooded character.

    It is important to be prepared to deal with the Muslim hate, because once they see it online and they see you, they go violently INSANE like their literal and spiritual father Satan!

    I pray for your safety, Br. Nathanael, for I know your health will be protected so that you will be ready for the day the Antichrist confronts you and go to spiritual war with him.

    Peace!

    Frank L

  68. Stav October 29, 2010 @ 4:44 pm

    Hi DWC,

    You say:

    ““Unlike the more outspoken and high profile Catholic and Protestant “Churches,” which maimed, killed and tortured, the Orthodox Church never used such force,”- Stav”

    Give us then, an example that compares to the Inquisitions, the Harlem “Witch” hunts, torture and attacks on “fellow” Christians etc. etc. that compares even remotely to any action of the Orthodox Church such as these events were committed.

    This means, they were committed and presented as the official position of these “Churches”.

    No? Can’t find any? Then my statement stands.

    Stav

  69. Stav October 29, 2010 @ 4:46 pm

    Also, DWC,

    I STILL say that these apparitions are Demonic. Has anything changed since then?

    Has anyone, refuted or proven my arguments to be false?

    No.

    Thus, that too stands.

    Stav

  70. x October 29, 2010 @ 5:30 pm

    See this:

    UPS just opened up “new center” IN ISRAHELL 9 days ago. Here we go, Jew UPS terror hoax.

    http://www.laowee.com/index.php/2010/10/ups-new-logistics-center-in-israel/

  71. Jerry October 29, 2010 @ 5:50 pm

    To DWC

    FANTASTIC that article on Dwight M. Wright!!!

    Thank you and doesn’t this remind of James 4

    “What causes fights and quarrels among you? Don’t they come from your desires that battle within you? You kill and covet, but you cannot have what you want”…etc. etc etc.

    Sums up everything about the Zionists if not everything about current history.

    You know, with this kind of thing the best course of action by our political leaders would have been to hold an international conference and convince one and all {including Turks, Arabs and Palestinians} to give to the Jews want they wanted, both their city and even temple.

    And then stand back and watch in amazement and even horror and perhaps a little laughter at what Almighty God will do with their disobedience toward Him and His son Christ Jesus. May 363 AD.!!!!!!

    After which everyone and everything can go back to living the way it was and that in peace.

    With the way things are going however, in that violence begets violence, and I am deeply afraid God will have it out with everyone. Indeed especially so I fear with this idea of Jihad.

    God is well capable of punishing a people Himself. Just take climate change as an example. God made it all to clear that the weather is His work!!!!!!! Period!

    Not this unbelievable nonsense of industrial pollution.

    All the prophets of the Bible speak of it, and for a people to use violence as the Moslems do “in the name of God” will I am afraid provoke God like nothing else in this world.

    Again violence begets violence and where climate change is concerned, look, Palestine is suffering a severe drought which according to her prophets and even King Solomon, said was actually going to happen.

    Check it out for yourself by begin reading Deuteronomy 11:17-18 and then continuing on to Jeremiah 23:19-20.

    Or just check out the website www.cropcirclesandclimatechange.com

    Cheers

    Jerry

  72. Disgusted White Christian October 29, 2010 @ 7:13 pm

    Also, DWC,

    “I STILL say that these apparitions are Demonic. Has anything changed since then?

    Has anyone, refuted or proven my arguments to be false?

    No.

    Thus, that too stands.-Stav

    Show us your evidence Stav, of demonic possession at Fatima. You are the one making the claims? Go out an bring it to me.

    You need to stay on the topic (exposing Zionists) or get off the site.

    You want proof, give ME another site to go to and I WILL shut your mouth once and for all, but I am not going to argue on this site, about these topics.

    DWC

  73. Disgusted White Christian October 29, 2010 @ 7:44 pm

    Last time Stavie, then from now on stick to exposing Zionists!

    Relics of Catholicism science can’t refute

    Our Lady of Guadalupe
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Guadalupe

    Fatima, (you know about Stav)

    In Egypt Stav
    http://www.zeitun-eg.org/zeitoun1.htm

    The Sudarium of Oviedo:

    Its History and Relationship to the Shroud of Turin (Science not religious dogma Stav
    proving this relic to be true also!

    http://www.shroud.com/guscin.htm

    DWC

  74. KathJuliane October 29, 2010 @ 9:02 pm

    More on the Organized Jewish Culprits List For Mass Immigration, Their Clients, and Their Fellow-Travelers:

    American Jewish Committee (AJC), Global Advocacy, and Comprehensive Immigration Reform (CIR aka Amnesty).

    Link: Overseas Offices/International Partners (all Jewish)

    http://www.ajc.org/site/c.ijITI2PHKoG/b.789099/k.1ED8/Overseas_Offices__International_Partners.htm

    The AJC are strong supporters of illegal/massive immigration, and a strong advocate for CIR.

    “AJC leaders meet regularly with Mexico’s ambassador to the U.S. and consuls throughout the country in order to address top bilateral and multilateral issues such as immigration, U.S.-Mexico relations and Mexico-Israel relations.

    “…instrumental in supporting the Mexican government with legislative initiatives such as the acceptance of the matricula consular (consular identification card) and the implementation of a comprehensive immigration reform to address the 7 million undocumented Mexicans in the country.”
    http://www.ajc.org/site/c.ijITI2PHKoG/b.789099/k.1ED8/Overseas_Offices__International_Partners.htm

    In 2007, AJC joined with the Mexican government on a three-day immigration workshop; that country receives billions of dollars per year that illegal aliens send home.
    http://www.ajc.org/site/c.ijITI2PHKoG/b.789099/k.1ED8/Overseas_Offices__International_Partners.htm

    In 2009, received $500,000 from the Ford Foundation to promote comprehensive immigration reform.
    http://www.jta.org/news/article/2009/06/16/1005926/ajc-gets-ford-grant-for-immigration-reform-initiative

    [Mexico receives around $20 billion per year that their citizens who are in the U.S. legally or illegally send home, giving them a financial motivation to encourage “migration” by any means necessary. By sending people north, they also get rid of people who might otherwise remain there and push for reform.

    Mexico has power inside the U.S. thanks to politicians willing to push their agenda to augment their own; president George W Bush even made a pledge to that government and the people of Mexico that he’d push for comprehensive immigration reform.

    Many local bureaucrats and clergy are willing to collaborate with them as well, such as by allowing them to pass out their Matricula Consular ID cards on public and church property.]

    Rupert Murdoch testifies for amnesty, massive immigration (using two CAP studies) - 09/30/10
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42984.html

    Also appearing with Murdoch before the House committee was New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

    The two billionaires launched Partnership for a New American Economy, a coalition of Republicans, Democrats, business (Disney, Fox, Hewlett Packard, Boeing, etc) and big-city mayors working to convince Congress that a vibrant economy is dependent on sweeping immigration reform. http://www.renewoureconomy.org/

    The group says it intends to make its point to policymakers by “publishing studies, conducting polls, convening forums and sponsoring public education campaigns.” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20100624/us-nyc-mayor-immigration-group/

    Obama muses at a “backyard discussion” in New Mexico that illegal aliens are Americans. He forgets about massive unemployment and promotes massive immigration - 09/29/10
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2010/09/28/remarks-president-a-backyard-discussion-albuquerque-new-mexico

    He expresses support for comprehensive immigration reform and says “economically, immigrants can also be a huge source of strength,” mentioning that we have a younger workforce than Europe or Japan.

    CATO weighs in: “Reforming the immigration system will promote economic prosperity and enhance national security. According to the CATO Institute, reform would yield an approximately $180 billion gain annually for U.S. households.

    Comprehensive Immigration Reform (CIR) would also improve national security by upgrading border security, and creating incentives for legal immigration that would allow law enforcement to focus on criminals, smugglers, and traffickers instead of people trying to unite with their families. http://www.cato.org/pubs/tpa/tpa-040.pdf

    [What dark crevice have these people buried their heads in? What about the 31 million unemployed Americans? Yikes!]

  75. USSA TODAY October 29, 2010 @ 11:47 pm

    This immigration garbage is meant to break us down and finish us off like so many other corrupting forces the Illuminati put into motion.

    Somebody should write a blog about the history of psy ops and how they work today because, it’s very reasonable to say that most of the information we receive in our society today is a psy op meant to demoralize us and twist our focus.

    I wish God would stop these oppressors. They are utterly detestable vermin.

  76. Kalif October 30, 2010 @ 12:45 am

    Apologies if I seem to be out of context, but I need answers to some youngsters’ questions who are very enthusiastic to know about Christianity.

    Essentially, they need to know whether Jesus consumed pork, and if he did not, then why not.

    Also, if he did not consume, then what gives some sects of Christianity the right to such indulgence, and the reason for them not to emulate and live the ways of Jesus.

    Anyone help from the readers is most welcome.

  77. x October 30, 2010 @ 3:04 am

    Zionist beast NATO mass murderers and terrorists murder in the name of Judeo-Masonic lies.

    NATO: 30 Fighters Killed in Afghan Outpost Attack

  78. Moshe October 30, 2010 @ 4:26 am

    Dear GEORGE,

    —-If you can’t believe the quote of Stav, then simply speak to Christians from Egypt, Syria, and particularly Turkey - the few that are left.—-

    It’s not that I don’t believe, it’s just the pot calling the kettle black.

    Throught history MUSLIMS have treated CHRISTIANS WAY BETTER than the other way around and you might want to ask a peasant Magyar Pagan of ancient Hungary and Northern European Pagan’s what they think of “Christianity” as espoused by the ‘converters’…not to mention –

    —-Furthermore speak to the Christian missionaries that have tried to go the Saudi kingdom to preach - if any managed to do so and come back alive.—–

    Good. LEAVE ISLAM THE HELL ALONE! Muslims have had enough of pious wanker Christians telling them how to live. It’s either some fat evangelical with nothing better to do or a cruise missile seeking to “convert” the Muslims. They’re sick of us. And rightly so.

    The “Christian West” is in NO CONDITION to preach a damned thing when it cant even get it’s own house in order. I am DISGUSTED with Christians in general. I’d be flogging you ALL out and you would be LUCKY to get home in one piece.

    PRAISE ISLAM! Better “Christians” than the Christians!

    Lead by example - mind your OWN DAMNED BUSINESS and as Paul said…”God gives you what you need.” [paraphrasing] And we need Muslims here in the West to teach us how to be pious, modest and willing to defend our Faith and Culture because Christians are a bunch of fat lazy slobs.

    – More so consider the following fact: the ears of the European populace ring of the complaints of Muslims who wish to build mosques vs the Christian minorities who are not even allowed to have public places of worship in several Middle Eastern nations where there was never a strong presence of Christians such as Saudi Arabia. –

    GOOD FOR THEM! They defend their Faith and they defend their Culture! They have been sent here to teach us!

    – Lastly look many of those historic mosques in the Middle East. Many are churches confiscated off Christians. This includes the Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem, which used to be a church dedicated to the Annunciation and the Hagia Sophia cathedral of Constantinople which was a mosque and now a dead museum. –

    The TEMPLE I seek is of the heart. Let all of these DEAD BUILDINGS BURN! BURN, BURN, BURN. You are like those buildings, all clean and fair without, but within, full of dead mens bones and all corruption.

    Jesus told us straight and 2000 years on we still don’t get it…

    1) “Verily I say unto you, the Kingdom of God is within you.”

    2) “Is it not written unto our fathers, yea are gods!”

    3) “Others will come after me who will do greater things than I.”

    4) “Destroy this temple and I will rebuild it in three days.”

    DUH! Why do you think the Ascetics of the Orthodox and ancient Catholic Faiths starved themselves in the desert and prayed on their knees for days on end? Where were they? What were they doing?

    5) “My Kingdom is not of this world.”

    6) “Blessed are the peace makers.”

    —-So in brief: Might is right!—-

    “And the meek shall inherit the earth”

  79. Moshe October 30, 2010 @ 4:36 am

    – Cavalier
    October 29, 2010 @ 6:09 am

    Yes it makes sense.

    You have to understand the Jews need to destroy racial and cultural cohesion in order to bring about their new world order. –

    Well then - check out this VERY TELLING quote:
    ————————————————

    Liebman was personally so convinced of the incompatibility of the values of integration and group survival, and of the inevitable “victory” of the former over the latter, that he concluded he and his family had no Jewish future in the United States, and relocated with them to Israel.

    For Goldstein, the solution is multi-culturalism. The only thing that will save Jews from extinction as a group in America, he avers, is “the ultimate dissolution of the dominant culture of which Jews have long strived to be a part” (239).

    Race, Ethnicity, and Religion in American Jewish Identity

    “The Price of Whiteness: Jews, Race, and American Identity”, by Eric L. Goldstein, Princeton University Press, 2006, 307 pp.
    http://www.jcpa.org/
    ——————————————————-

    Does it get much more honest than that?

  80. Moshe October 30, 2010 @ 4:45 am

    These comments are most enlightening.

    Considering I am a humble, loud mouthed and uncouth smart ass from a land far, far, away it would seem the enlightened ones of Theology have it in their heads but not in their hearts. Take this for example…

    ———————————————————-
    Fr. John
    October 29, 2010 @ 6:33 am

    “Let us ask this simple question…”What would Jesus do?” And He would NOT want you as one of His Disciples.”

    Moshe. You are not God, you are not even a Priest. You should be careful of what you say, especially when the blood of Christian martyrs are concerned.

    St. Theodosius of the Kiev Caves clearly outlined the TRUE way to understand our enemies. He said:

    “Love your enemies, but only your Personal Enemies, and NOT the Enemies of God.”

    Talmudic Judaism, Islam, and Christian Zionism are the enemies of God, both by their denial of the finished work on Calvary (the ripping of the Temple curtain from top to bottom, thus denying any future ‘Third Temple’ from the CZ’s POV) as well as their denial that Christ God IS God Incarnate.

    All other POV’s, frankly, are demonic to the core. Christ is God, He is the savior of mankind, and the Church is His theanthropic body here on Earth.
    ——————————————————————

    And how did the humble carpenter change the world? By booting out the Samaritans? By taking a sword to the Canaanites? I think there are to many jews and to many Protestants on this forum.

    Jesus so loved the world, had such compassion, He even felt a great and enduring Love for the people nailing Him to a Cross.

    He led by example and He demands we take up our Cross and follow Him. As far as I can tell He never rejected anyone of sincere heart.

    Save yourself and you will save a thousand around you. Mind your business and PRAY. Not enough PRAYER going on and to much blabber mouthing.

    I pray 50 times a day [slight exaggeration - too many holocaust memoirs read]. Mostly on my knees, and very often with my forehead to the often dirty floor, and if I am feeling particularly disgusted with myself I kiss the floor and bang my sinful and disgusting forehead against it.

    Quit dissing Islam. Quit it. Now.

    God likes them.

  81. Moshe October 30, 2010 @ 4:47 am

    ——Disgusted White Christian
    October 29, 2010 @ 9:39 am

    Conversely, Iran, whom the Zionist Jew would have us believe is “Christianity’s enemy” has parks there, where Christian symbols are openly presented. I have seen them on the net.——–

    Thank you DWC.

    :-)

  82. Moshe October 30, 2010 @ 4:52 am

    STAV

    – The razor knifes used to cut our Bishop’s ears and nose and his dragging in the town of Smyrna leaving a train of blood in its path. Yes! all of that transpired and was committed by your “considerate” Muslims in the 20th Century. –

    Are we having a macho contest or just a pissing contest?

    As for Orthodoxy - I have spent time in the R.O.C Monestery in the Blue Mountains of New South Wales and helped found a R.O.C approved Chapel. Now we have that out of the way…

    Your descriptions sound terrible.

    Let us now turn to this new century alone to see what has been done TO MUSLIMS by CHRISTIANS? Do we really need too?

    I thinketh there is not enough prayer and reflection on the Word of God and the example of His son Jesus Christ.

    Kapeche?

  83. Moshe October 30, 2010 @ 4:54 am

    I take it most of the people commenting here only have their Tanach/Old Testament at hand.

    If you turn a few more pages you will find a book called the “NEW Testament” where an “eye for an eye” has been replaced with the Commandment FROM GOD, and given example of BY GOD in the Flesh too…”Love your enemies, do good to those who persecute you, pray for them.”

  84. Moshe October 30, 2010 @ 4:59 am

    ——-Islam, you all have to understand something about that cult.

    There are two types of Islam. The Medinah Islam where Muslims were the minority and played the peace and love card. Then you have the second Islam, Mecca Islam, when the Muslims were the majority, and Muhammad limited, robbed, taxed, enslaved, and killed non Muslims.

    Also, the end times prophecies of Islam tells Muslims to openly commit full out jihad on non-Muslims, which they are doing now, WITH THE HELP OF THE CRIMINAL JEWS.———-

    BIG WORDS, give me a QUOTE from the Quran AND let me know the book from which you got that Mahummed robbed, murdered, taxed and generaly ate Christian babies on weekends.

    I swear I am at a Holocaust Conference and “survivors” are swapping stories. Yes dearies…there were some nasty things done on the Eastern front but where did you get the “Bear of Belsen” story from? From YOU I take it?

    Any more great commentary on how Muhammed was on the Grassy Knoll as Kennedy went passed AND you forgot he used to beat his wife ;-)

  85. Moshe October 30, 2010 @ 5:09 am

    USSA TODAY
    October 29, 2010 @ 11:47 pm

    ————-This immigration garbage is meant to break us down and finish us off like so many other corrupting forces the Illuminati put into motion.————–

    Oh yes, the damned “Illuminati”. Not to mention the White Witches and the Black Nationalists.

    I take it you know how to spell “Jews”.

    So tell me, Stalin once said to a emmisary from the Pope about his intentions in Eastern Europe…”And how many Divisions has the Vatican?”

    So I ask a similar question of relevance…”How many Reserve Banks, Media outlets, Hollywood movie studio’s, Pentagons, foreign policy institutes and T.V stations has the Illuminati?”

  86. Glory B. October 30, 2010 @ 5:10 am

    Dear Kalif,

    I am by no means an expert on the Bible, and there are others here who are far more familiar with its passages than am I.

    But I believe we don’t know for sure what Jesus ate, other than bread and wine, which are His Body and Blood when we take communion.

    Jesus did away with the Jewish dietary laws, so we can speculate that He did eat pork, although we don’t know that for sure.

    What we do know, for sure, is what He said, as recorded in Matthew 15:11: “It is not what enters into the mouth that defiles the man, but what proceeds out of the mouth, this defiles the man.”

    The Jews are all hung up with their ridiculous dietary laws, that you can’t mix meat and milk, that you can’t eat pork or oysters or clams or whatever.

    Myself, I love pork, and also lamb, although some Christians won’t eat lamb because Christ is the Lamb of God.

    The Jews have bamboozled the American public into buying Jew-approved food products, which you can tell because they have a K or a U in a circle stamped on the label. This means that the food is “kosher,” which means it has been blessed by a rabbi.

    What “kosher” really means is that Christians are paying more for this kind of food than non-kosher. And where does our money go? Right into the pockets of the Jews, of course. Kosher is a Jewish scheme to cheat Christians out of their money — one of many schemes by which the Jews get rich off of us Christians.

    And if you want to avoid eating “kosher” food, you have to go way out of your way to find it, if you can find it at all. So most Christians don’t bother, and just buy the Jewified food, and pay the extra money which makes the Jews rich.

    So go ahead and tell your kids to eat pork or shrimp or whatever they like, as long as it is healthy, not junk food like candy and sodas. And just remember, it’s not what goes into your mouth that defiles you, but what comes out of your mouth, as Our Lord said.

  87. Stav October 30, 2010 @ 5:20 am

    Dear DWC,

    You say:

    “Show us your evidence Stav, of demonic possession at Fatima. You are the one making the claims? Go out an bring it to me.”

    The burden of proof falls to the first claimant dear DWC. The first claim was made on this site initially by Fr. Joseph. Yet, he did not provide proof or reason for accepting these apparitions, that are compatible with the what Orthodoxy teaches.

    We are instructed to Test the Spirits in Scripture. The way to test them is to verify whether they confess that Jesus Christ is Lord God and that He came down from heaven on earth for our Salvation.

    I have seen no such proof. Mere supernatural apparition is NOT reason for defining something as divine. As I have said before, there have been thousands of apparitions, spiritual revelations, by spirits who have even claimed to be Jesus Christ himself. Demons, are known to suggest prayer, fasting and a whole bunch of seemingly good things.

    That is the experience of the Orthodox Church and we have developed specific methods of dealing with these things. Things, that have been completely forgotten by the west and it’s gnosticism, which essentially makes them materialistic, ignoring all spiritual aspects of life. Should we all then believe these simply because they said so? No, because that is simply VERY dangerous.

    Reading the Fatima accounts, I saw no such thing. What I did see, was mentions of the heretic Popes as Holy Father, and the claim that Mary is out only hope. Both statements are profoundly and obviously BLASPHEMOUS. Therefore, I claim that these apparitions where Demonic.

    That has been the practice of the church and Ascetics who have had many similar experiences since the beginning. And since I am Orthodox, and live withing the unbroken, unchanged tradition of the True Church, I do NOT change this practice, which is at the same time logical, sensible, scriptural ad prudent.

    As far as the matter of staying on topic, please see who mentioned the apparitions again, to which I responded. It was you! If you did not mention it I would not have brought it up again…

    Furthermore, it is clear that you want me to shut up and never mention any of the things I do here ever again. It is clear that you want to be saturated in your western, USA and English oriented, corrupted version of Christianity and would rather forget that there is such a thing as an Original, unchanged Church, which the only one that remains standing and uncorrupted.

    This self blinding that you commit to your self, is both bad for you , your country and the world by extension.

    I have said it before and I will say it again now: Salvation in this world and the Next, no matter who the enemy is, be it Zionists, Satanist or the Devil himself, lies within the correct practice of Christianity. In fact, I personally believe that it is the core and foundation of our struggle.

    While the western world had been taken over overtly, infiltrated by Zionists, Masons and Satanists of all kinds, it was the Orthodox Church that has kept the Jewish question and “issue alive, always.

    We do not hide away from the passages which mention what a Jew really is. We do not hide the fact, that Judaism, by definition is Anti-Christ.

    Now, you seem to wake up to this fact, and only NOW, you decide that they, who kept this information fresh and alive, should not shut up…

    It will NEVER happen. The future, dear DWC, will show, who is right and who is wrong. I have no power nor any incline to convince you of anything.

    My words, which are merely the expression of where I came from and where I consiously chose to belong to, are for the ones that can and will benefit.

    If you are not one of those, then feel free to ignore my comments.

    Yet, you, in your NWO democracy flavor, would rather that I shut my mouth and never bring up matters that stir the waters.

    I know the many people who belong to the thousands of separated and disfigured “Christian” denominations do not want to hear this message. I know it is insulting and suggest that there is something very seriously wrong. But, just like the Jewish question, this is a matter that is at the base of what could be a real solution.

    So therefore, I will continue. That is, unless Br. Nathanael, our generous host here, will tell me otherwise. Then, I will humbly, follow his wishes and shut up for as long as he asks me to.

    Stav

  88. x October 30, 2010 @ 5:54 am

    Did you see it was all Zionist beast staged as always. Pure lies again.

    U.S. plays down reports of Afghan peace talks:

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The top U.S. official for Afghanistan sought to play down reports on secret peace talks with the Taliban, saying on Friday that no high-level discussion was under way with insurgent leaders.

  89. MICHELLE October 30, 2010 @ 6:02 am

    Don’t you know that the elite want to cause conflict between Christians and Muslims?

    And you are helping them out by writing articles such as this one…

    You see, Christianity and Islam are the two biggest religions in the world, thats why they want to get Christians and Muslims at each others throats.

    So they can kill each other off and then there will be nobody in their way when they want to bring out the antichrist…..

    It’s the oldest trick in the book!

    What Christians and Muslims need to realize is that they have alot more in common than most of them know, and they have common enemies (satan and the antichrist).

    So rather than fight each other, let Christians and Muslims unite to defeat Satan and his goons, and then after that, you can part company and go your own ways, make peace!

  90. Glory B. October 30, 2010 @ 6:17 am

    Dear Charlie,

    I’m sorry to hear that you have lost your respect for me, but whether or not you have respect for me is of no consequence.

    What does matter to me is that I have the love of Christ, and that I am part of Him.

    As St. Paul put it in Romans 8:35-39:

    [35] Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

    [36] As it is written, “For thy sake we are being killed all the day long; we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.”

    [37] No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us.

    [38] For I am sure that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers,

    [39] nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    In a prior post, I said that I thought Hitler was right about the Jews. Jews are culture-destroying parasites who brought God’s punishment down on their own heads, because they murdered Our Lord and have never repented of that crime.

    But for those of us like myself (and Bro. Nathanael, although I certainly don’t put myself in his league) who have discarded the satanic Jewish belief system (not a religion) and turned our lives over to Christ, we are forgiven and privileged to be with Him when He returns on the Day of Judgment.

    Where I differ with Hitler is his doctrine that “once a Jew, always a Jew,” and therefore I should be killed even though I am no longer a Jew (by birth, yes, but I have been “born again” through baptism).

    If Hitler had won World War II, I probably wouldn’t have been here to be writing these words. And neither would Bro. Nathanael — and that would have been wrong.

    As for your insistence that “there is not one piece of credible evidence that Jews were systematically slaughtered in the concentration work camps,” and “there is not one piece of credible evidence that gas ovens ever existed,” I believe there is credible evidence.

    There are the confessions of Adolf Eichmann and Rudolf Hoess, who certainly knew about the gas chambers because they were there when the Jews were gassed.

    In his confession, Auschwitz Kommandant Hoess wrote that Himmler told him that “The Fuhrer has ordered the Final Solution of the Jewish question. We the SS have to carry out this order.”

    Now you may argue that this is not “credible evidence” because it is only Himmler’s word that Hitler ordered the Jews to be killed. And I acknowledge that Hitler never signed any paper ordering the Final Solution.

    But there is plenty of evidence that Hitler wanted the Jews dead. To cite only two examples, in a 1922 speech, Hitler said, “No salvation is possible until the bearer of disunion, the Jew, has been rendered powerless to harm.”

    And in his speech to the Reichstag on January 30, 1939, the Fuerhrer said, “In the course of my life I have very often been a prophet, and have usually been ridiculed for it.

    During the time of my struggle for power it was in the first instance the Jewish race which only received my prophecies with laughter when I said that I would one day take over the leadership of the State, and with it that of the whole nation, and that I would then among many other things settle the Jewish problem.

    Their laughter was uproarious, but I think that for some time now they have been laughing on the other side of their face.

    Today I will once more be a prophet: If the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevization of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!”

    There are many other pieces of “credible evidence” that I could point out, but this is neither the time nor the place for it. Bro. Nathanael wants us to stay on topic, and he is absolutely right. I only went to this length because you brought it up.

    So I guess you and I will just have to agree to disagree on this subject And if this means I lose your respect, well, then, so be it.

    Meanwhile, I hope we can be in agreement that Christians have to combat satanic Jewry at every opportunity. As you yourself put it, “We are not like the duplicitous Jews as long as we refuse to be Judaized, as Christ has paid the penalty for our sins.”

  91. KC October 30, 2010 @ 6:58 am

    Kalif,

    This one does not talk about pork per se, but should answer your question.

    Matthew, ch. 15, 10-20

    Jesus called the crowd to him and said,

    “Listen and understand.

    What goes into a man’s mouth does not make him ‘unclean,’ but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him ‘unclean.’”

    Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?”

    He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots.

    Leave them; they are blind guides. If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”

    Peter said, “Explain the parable to us.”

    “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them.

    “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body?

    But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man ‘unclean.’

    For out of the heart come evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander.

    These are what make a man ‘unclean’; but eating with unwashed hands does not make him ‘unclean.’ “

  92. Fr. John October 30, 2010 @ 7:12 am

    “We can not afford to alienate people of other faiths just because they do not accept Jesus Christ as their savior.”

    Words of Wisdom, by this sentence, what do you mean? Do you mean that we can be friendly with pagans and the ‘goyim’ if we keep them out of OUR countries?

    I would agree whole-heartedly with THAT.

    But the presence of non-Europeans and non-Christians in the USA, is part of a PREDETERMINED plan by the Zionists to:

    a) Ensure the formation of the Zionist (racist) state of Isra-hell, which has NO connection with the Davidic kingdom as mentioned in the bible, and

    b) To neutralize and utterly DESTROY the white Christian majority that once gave this nation it’s entire character, even as late as Kennedy!

    It was Jew Celler who worked (behind the scenes) to get HHH and Teddy Kennedy (like good little shabbas goys) to do the Talmudic’s bidding, in breaking the ‘Whites Only ‘ immigration plan that had been in place since 1924, thus enabling America to become the world leader it did.

    After 1966, when the ‘vast teeming hordes’ began, the UTTER TRANSFORMATION of this land began, and if you are less than 45 years old, you wouldn’t even KNOW how COMPLETELY our nation has been bolshevized via her demonic ‘Multiculturalism’ - the ‘pan-heresy of all Christian racial awareness.’

  93. Stav October 30, 2010 @ 7:35 am

    Dear Kalif,

    The Old Testament, has at least two prohibitions regarding the eating of pork.

    However, Christians through Jesus Christ, Lord, Saviour and God, we have received the new law.

    The new law, includes much of the old law, but also removes a number of prohibitions given to the Jews in the Old Testament times. It also gives more clues of what true spirituality is about and therefore, for Christians, it is much more important to keep the law of love towards God and our fellow brothers and sisters which are all of humanity.

    Jesus Christ as God has all authority to define the law, and as such updated it:

    Matt 7:28-29

    28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:

    29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

    Jesus Christ who is our Lord and God, explained His redefinition of the law as such:

    Matt. 5:

    17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

    18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

    Thus, He proceeded to redefine the Law, not only in the context of food consumption but, much more importantly in the spiritual sense. For example:

    Matt. 5:

    21 Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

    22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

    And,

    27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

    28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

    And so, the old Law was fulfilled, by the appearance of the Son of God, who is the second person of the Holy Trinity, his suffering on the Cross and the salvation He has offered to all of us. Once fulfilled, the old law was replaced by the new law.

    In this context, some part of the old Law, was updated or even lifted as prohibition. Some other parts were made more clear and their innermost meaning revealed and thus made even stricter.

    Thus,

    Regarding food consumption, Jesus Christ, Who is God said:

    Mark 7:

    18 And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;

    19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

    20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.

    21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,

    22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:

    23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

    From the above, we can see, that while we don’t know exactly what Jesus Christ our God, consumed, He has made it clear, that there are much, much more important things that defile us and it is not what meat we eat. It is what happens inside our hearts and how this comes out.

    More pointers to the insignificance of the type of food we eat in this context:

    Acts 10:9-13

    9 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:

    10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,

    11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:

    12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

    13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

    More pointers to the same idea, i.e. the insignificance of what we eat, in comparison to how we act and what is inside our hearts:

    Romans 14:

    1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.

    2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

    3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him.

    More:

    1 Timothy:

    1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

    3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

    4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

    5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

    From the above, it can be understood, that Jesus Christ who is Lord of Lords, with His New Testament, has revealed to us the true spirit of the Good Message, which is that it is much more important to live in Love of God and fellow human beings, than to observe some kind of specific dietary regimen.

    But, all of the above said, there is the concept and rule of fasting that has also been given to us, in the form of a solution to many of our human weaknesses.

    Fasting, for example, in the Orthodox Church is practiced for more than half of the year if done properly and it’s reason is spiritual, not ideological nor medical, although it may have very good health effects also.

    Monks, fast even more. For example, on mount Athos, no meat is consumed except for fish and other sea animals, and those only on very few days of the year.

    Thus, again, we see the old Law, taking on a new form, a new version, which is now focusing not on blind following of some kind of rule, but rather has taken on the intended spiritual aspect.

    Thus, today, the proper (Orthodox) Christian view, practically, is as follows:

    If a Christian is consuming a specific food, such as pork, they should be doing it, while realizing that they should be much more concerned with what happens in the spirit rather than the physical body.

    And,

    If a Christian abstains from particular foods, such as meat, dairy oil etc. which as I said if done properly is done for more than half a year, they do it, NOT because of the uncleanliness that is in the food, but rather, to sacrifice the body, in order for the spirit to be healed, through a spiritual process, which should never be done clinically, but with prayer, and an intention to humbly allow our Lord and God Jesus Christ to heal FIRST the Soul and then the Body, if that is His Divine will.

    Stav

  94. Disgusted White Christian October 30, 2010 @ 8:03 am

    Kalif:

    Jesus was born of a Jewish mother and into a Jewish environment in Nazareth.

    He would of followed Jewish customs, which including not consuming pork.

    There were areas were Jesus came in conflict with the Jewish priests and Pharisees on their customs, in that he would heal people on the Sabbeth, which they saw as blasphemy.

    But like Jesus told them, “God made the Sabbath for man, not man for the Sabbath.”

    He tried to explain you have to use “COMMON SENSE” “if a lamb falls into a hole on the Sabbath, are you to leave it to die, because it is the Sabbath” he told them.

    The problem is Jews are “VERY LITERAL” and they were back then also, why they make good attorneys. Sometimes they forgo logic, reason, and common sense, to argue even the most mundane of points.

    The consumption of pork I believe came later with Paul, who felt Christians no longer needed to follow “Jewish Laws” on food and circumcision.

    You take circumcision, most of these Christians, Paul and the other apostles would be trying to convert, were adults, and have a much lower pain threshold then an infant, plus the risk of infection?

    Jesus cautioned, “use common sense, and abide mainly by our (he and the holy Father’s) Golden Rule: do unto others as you would have them do to you.”

    All these rituals and customs are great but God wants your mercy and compassion for your fellow man, much more than abiding by these rituals, and customs, in an almost FANATICAL fashion like many of these Orthodox Jews do.

    Which, the Conservative and Orthodox Jews today, believe they can do a multitude of sins, then on Yom Kippur cast some bread in the ocean, say some prayers in Hebrew, and their sins are forgiven?

    Of course, the rest of humanity means nothing to them, this is why they can cry
    about the Holocaust for the whole last century, while simultaneously, murdering and committing ethnic genocide themselves?

    DWC

  95. Kurt October 30, 2010 @ 8:38 am

    I sit here reading these posts and what becomes very apparent is instead of ‘circling the wagons’ and banding together to fight Satan and his ministers we are in effect fighting each other.

    Sadly and historically this is the history of the Christian Church going back to the earliest days of church. Some say the Orthodox Church is the ‘only true church:’ others claim the Roman Catholic Church is the ‘only true church’: and others say the Protestant Church is the ‘only true church’ and so on to ad nauseam.

    The one thing we all agree upon is we can’t agree upon who or what is the ‘true church.’ Each side lines up its best arguments on why they are the only ‘true’ church and why the rest are not and again to ad nauseam.

    I am mindful of the Scripture:

    And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
    For he that is not against us is on our part. (Mark 9:38-40 & Luke 9:49-50).

    Somehow Christians of all various persuasions must get past all of the differences that divide us or we will never be able to defeat Satan and his devices.

    I am sure most posters on here are aware of Jesus warning that a house divided cannot stand. This is the sad state of Christianity since its early days as the Corinthian church was a church divided by various schisms isms and so on.

    Study the basis behind the early Church Councils such as the First Council of Nicaea or the Council of Chalcedon — various bishops and their schools of thought jockeying for position and preeminence.

    One bishop trying to get another bishop banished: or one bishop attempting to get another bishop branded a heretic and so on. Most of us agree that there is no salvation outside of the Church — Amen! However we cannot agree as a ‘body’ who or what constitutes the church. So the various churches, sects, and cults engage in excommunicating each other or some other kind of calumny.

    I submit to you that proof of this continued division will be shown as someone will undoubtedly reply to this post and say they are only standing for the truth as they must proclaim Jesus’ ‘true’ Word and declare his ‘true’ Church and accuse me of some heresy in my beliefs or faith or whatever.

    While Rome is burning we stand arguing over who is this or that not realizing our house is crumbling around us! How sad.

  96. Disgusted White Christian October 30, 2010 @ 8:47 am

    U.K. official: Aircraft was likely target of attack: all the hallmarks of the MOSSAD
    is more like it?

    Yeah, al Qaeda is going to put explosive in something, and address it to Jewish organizations, why not just put sign on it “bomb in here”???

    Kind of like that Zionist Christian nut, that was sending anthrax to people in letters, and blaming Islam???

    How much you want to bet, if that plane blew up, all evidence would point to Iran?

    Earlier Saturday, U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano told CNN Saturday that the plan to send explosives on a flight to the United States has the “hallmarks of al Qaeda,”

    “We know that the perpetrators of this — and it has the hallmarks of al Qaeda, the AQAP — they are constantly trying things to test our system,” she said, referring to al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula.

    The suspected terror plot involved two suspicious packages found abroad, addressed to Jewish organizations in the United States, that contained considerable amounts of explosive material.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/10/30/security.concern/index.html?hpt=T1

    DWC

  97. Donna chestergimli October 30, 2010 @ 9:39 am

    I would like to make a note on not eating pork and circumcison of boys.

    And I think that it is more healthful than anything. Pigs carry a lot of parasites and it not properly cooked, these parasites can then infest man and make hin very sick.

    As far as circumsicion is concerned. It allows a man to keep himself cleaner and prevents other problems which I have heard of also. Could this be the reason that God set up these prohihitions? I perhaps think so.

  98. Mark M October 30, 2010 @ 10:11 am

    @ Moshe

    “So I ask a similar question of relevance…”How many Reserve Banks, Media outlets, Hollywood movie studio’s, Pentagons, foreign policy institutes and T.V stations has the Illuminati?”

    Seems that they have all that they need.

  99. Disgusted White Christian October 30, 2010 @ 10:45 am

    Stav:

    One other thing you seem to know laws well, and quote them, do you understand them?

    One last point on the Roman Catholic Church: I know it has been loaded with evil and wrong doing, as you have mentioned, I myself was once an old altar boy.

    What you fail to tell people on here, the Catholic church for two millenniums, has been under constant attack from Satan, and his Jewish disciples here.

    Why don’t you research “Marranos,” who were also known as “crypto-Jews.”

    The Catholic church was inundated with them around the time of Isabella’s dispersion of them from Spain, and IT WAS NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE JEWS, IT WAS BECAUSE THEY WERE TRAITORS, THAT WERE BOTH HELPING MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS FOR PROFIT, sound familiar Stav?

    Now Stav, remember, the priests and Pharisees, calling Jesus of Satan, which he replied, “would Satan cast out Satan.”

    Now I reply to you Stav, on the Catholic Church, would Satan, and Jews, attack something, Satan would love, and approve of?

    See, you speak, without knowledge of the subject?

    What I am telling you is all these fake satanic crypto-Jews, have infiltrated the Catholic church for close to 1500 years, like a cancer in your body metastasizes.

    Much of the Catholics that did this barbarism, were either crypto-Jews or their puppets?

    You kapesh, Stav?

    DWC

  100. Disgusted White Christian October 30, 2010 @ 11:03 am

    Also Stav, by you saying the Orthodox church has been free of Satan is ludicrous and ridiculous, and borderline blasphemous.

    No person or entity was immune from Satan on this earth, say for Jesus himself, because he was God incarnate!

    You are the one who made the claim that Fatima was demonic, the burden in a court of law is weighed upon the plaintiff, my dear Stav, not the defendant?

    So, I guess outside, of these Fatima: Egypt, Lourdes, Guadalupe, Rwanda, Balkans was of Satan according to “Stavish logic,” and that Mother Mary tried to warn them of the ethnic genocide that would take place there, that was EVIL from Satan???

    I would love to hear your response on that one?

    DWC

  101. Stav October 30, 2010 @ 11:55 am

    Dear DWC,

    You say:

    “Also Stav, by you saying the Orthodox church has been free of Satan is ludicrous and ridiculous, and borderline blasphemous.”

    Why do you put words in my mouth?

    I did not say that the OC is free from Satan.

    What I said was, that the Church, and to make it clearer now, when operating in it’s entirety, is infallible.

    On an individual level, of course, just like all people, OC people fall to the temptations of Satan. The difference is, it does not “infect” the Church as an institution and it’s God given Grace.

    One thing I observe, is that it seems that you Catholics, or whatever you may be, do not reply to my specific arguments.

    YES, I did say that the burden of proof falls on the claimant. If there is an initial claim, it must be supported. In the case of the quickly accepted as divine Fatima apparitions, there has not been any such thing.

    BUT, and this is where I think you are simply skipping many of the lines I write, I OFFERED AGAIN my arguments against it. Even though the burden of proof falls on the claimant first.

    It’s very simple. you want to claim something? You have to support your claim.

    And, ONLY THEN, after the claim has been expressed, hopefully with a proof attached, I can refute this claim with my own burden of proof to my counter claim.

    Come on, this is simple, basic stuff. You cannot possibly claim that I need to FIRST support my counter claim, and only after that, the claimant?

    And, there is no Stavish logic. There is Logic and reason, regardless of the person. Focus on what is said and not the person. If you think my logic has failed, please be my very welcome guest, prove it. If not, there is no point changing the subject.

    If you think that something I say is BS (nice argument by the way!) please prove it. If you cannot, then you cannot convince anyone that it is.

    Those who are ready to see, can see though that.

    And to answer your question, “predicting” the future, when this future involves an Evil occurrence, is easy if you are the perpetrator. The Devil know his plans, does he not? Therefore, he can easily “predict” an upcoming disaster.

    It is therefore, exactly, that we are instructed to TEST THE SPIRITS, and not rely on “predictions” or appearance or even seemingly good words.

    Why do you insist in ignoring what is pure sense and instructed to us in Scripture?

    Orthodox practice, in regards to any kind of meeting with spirits, in whatever form, ALWAYS records the stage of testing the spirits. Our Saints always asked the spirit to worship God or confess that Jesus Christ is indeed God who has come to the world for our salvation. (And the sources are readily available to anyone)

    I really don’t understand, it’s Scriptural, it makes sense, it is prudent. You never even acknowledge my many mentions of stories and meetings with spirits, appearing as Jesus Christ, as His Mother, as Aliens, as whatever.

    The process by which the Fatima apparitions were accepted, did NOT involve testing the spirits. It was more akin to the way the Mormons accepted their demonic angel visitor, Muslims their own and all the New Agers, their new messiah whom they channel even as we seek probably.

    And all of these spirits, always have something good to say. But the end result is always the same. They put themselves above God and the real Saviour who is Jesus Christ. “Only I can save you…” See the similarity?

    Don’t you see?

    I guess not, as you will probably ignore my arguments again, and either use an ad hominem or characterize my posts as BS or as Stavish logic…

    Never a real answer, just denial. I guess thats the pattern, for those who are not ready yet.

    Stav

  102. KC October 30, 2010 @ 12:40 pm

    Stav,

    Good posts brother but its useless to argue with them. How much time has been spent on this forum on arguments between RC and Orthodox. You try to bring some order of argumentation in your posts but it never seems to work.

    Let’s just share our Orthodox view on things in relation to the articles and if they don’t like it, too bad.

    Those who will find that info useful or insightful, will seek the Truth and find it, as it is in our Orthodox Church which is the Body of Christ.

    God Bless.

  103. Dafydd October 30, 2010 @ 12:49 pm

    President Amedinejad stated words to the effect that the Zionist entity should be wiped off the map. This was quoted out of context to mean the wiping out of Israel. When in fact in was akin to saying that the Soviet entity should be wiped off the map, which it was.

    The same applies to Adolf Hitler’s statement “No salvation is possible until the bearer of disunion, the Jew, has been rendered powerless to harm.” Means the Jews should be removed from power within German territory.

    The same with the Final Solution, which was to resettle Jews outside German territory. This is why the National Socialists were working with the Zionists in resettling Jews in Palestine during World war 11.

    Large numbers of Jews moved to Great Britain, the USA, and else where in the 1930’s If Adolf Hitler had a plan to exterminate Jews, then none would have got outside German territory. This is not rocket Science.

    The confession that Commandant Hoess signed was written in English, but he could not speak, read or write in English. This confession was signed under duress as he had been tortured, which is generally accepted.

    There is evidence that Adolf Eichmann was himself Jewish. And his trial was in Israel, and this is why he signed this testimony in the hope it would save his skin.

    Winston Churchill, General De Gaul and Eisenhower wrote their auto biographies and never mentioned the extermination of Jews once. One would have thought that such a momentous event such as this would have warranted at least a chapter in each of their respective autobiographies, but no, no mention anywhere.

    Ziclone B is a delousing Gas similar to DDT which was used for delousing the camp inmates clothing in delousing gas chambers that did exist.

    Mass gassing at this level is scientifically impossible. And the figure of six million is logistically impossible, especially as the Germans were fighting for their very existenceat this time.

    All the death camps were in Germany, Austria, and Poland we were told, and now magically they are only in Poland.The death register for Auschwitz is 72,000; these figures were retrieved from the Moscow archives after the fall of Communism in Eastern Europe. So where do they get the 4 million from, which has now been amended to read one and a half million Jews.

    The story keeps changing, does it not?

    We all know who controls the Banks, the media, Hollywood, the education system and our bought and paid for politicians, so is it any wonder that we get this totally distorted version of World war two events.

    So the official version of history is going to only fit in with their paradigm is it not? The victor gets to write history not the vanquished. But the mass murder of an estimated 135 Million, who were murdered under communism, is flushed down the memory hole.

    Truth does not fear questioning or investigation, and does not need laws to protect it.

    But we are where we are because to question this, one would find it full of holes, this in turn would lead to questioning the real reasons for World war two, the first World war, the Bolshevik “revolution”, and would lead to questioning the fraudulent banking system, and those who control it and who are behind nearly all the wars that have taken place.

    So there is no credible evidence for the lie of the twentieth century, period!

  104. Dafydd October 30, 2010 @ 12:55 pm

    President Amedinejad stated words to the effect that the Zionist entity should be wiped off the map.

    This was quoted out of context to mean the wiping out of Israel. When in fact in was akin to saying that the Soviet entity should be wiped off the map, which it was.

    The same applies to Adolf Hitler’s statement “No salvation is possible until the bearer of disunion, the Jew, has been rendered powerless to harm.” Means the Jews should be removed from power within German territory.

    The same with the Final Solution, which was to resettle Jews outside German territory. THis is why the National Socialists were working with the Zionists in resettling Jews in Palestine during World War II.

    Large numbers of Jews moved to Great Britain, the USA, and else where in the 1930’s If Adolf Hitler had a plan to exterminate Jews, then none would have got outside German territory. This is not Rocket Science.

    The confession that Commandant Hoess signed was written in English, but he could not speak, read or write in English. This confession was signed under duress as he had been tortured, which is generally accepted.

    There is evidence that Adolf Eichmann was himself Jewish. And his trial was in Israel, and this is why he signed this testimony in the hope it would save his skin.

    Winston Churchill, General De Gaul and Eisenhower wrote their autobiographies and never mentioned the extermination of Jews once. One would have thought that such a momentous event such as this would have warranted at least a chapter in each of their respective autobiographies, but no, no mention anywhere.

    Zyclone B is a delousing gas similar to DDT which was used for delousing the camp inmates clothing in delousing gas chambers that did exist.

    Mass gassing at this level is scientifically impossible. And the figure of six million is logistically impossible, especially as the Germans were fighting for their very existence at this time.

    All the death camps were in Germany, Austria, and Poland we were told, and now magically they are only in Poland. The death register for Auschwitz is 72,000; these figures were retrieved from the Moscow archives after the fall of Communism in Eastern Europe. So where do they get the 4 million from, which has now been amended to read one and a half million Jews.

    The story keeps changing, does it not?

    We all know who controls the Banks, the media, Hollywood, the education system and our bought and paid for politicians, so is it any wonder that we get this totally distorted version of World war two events.

    So the official version of history is going to only fit in with their paradigm is it not? The victor gets to write history not the vanquished. But the mass murder of an estimated 135 Million, who were murdered under communism, is flushed down the memory hole.

    Truth does not fear questioning or investigation, and does not need laws to protect it. But we are where we are because to question this, one would find it full of holes, this in turn would lead to questioning the real reasons for World War II, the first World War, the Bolshevik “revolution,” and would lead to questioning the fraudulent banking system, and those who control it and who are behind nearly all the wars that have taken place.

    So there is no credible evidence for the lie of the Twentieth Century, period!

  105. Disgusted White Christian October 30, 2010 @ 1:10 pm

    What are you Stav, Orthodox Greek??

    Orthodox Russian, you keep saying “Orthodox” but not quantifying it?

    Then, you come on with “circular reasoning” and talk in circles and riddles?

    First off, Greece is secular, and socialist, just like Italy, and Russia was socialist and atheists for 80 years, similar to Italy?

    How was/is the corruption there, different from the Vatican, and the secular nature there now??? Where is this “infallible church” you speak of???

    You said “YOU CAN OPENLY DISCUSS JEWISH QUESTION IN YOUR CHURCH.”

    Let me tell you right now, you go in any church in the west, be it Mormon, JW, Protestant, Catholic, Orthodox Russian or Greek, you start to discuss any topics here, or anything about Jews, or Zionism from Brother Nathanael’s site, I will GUARANTEE, they will warn you to stop, if you don’t, you will be thrown out.

    You are not REALISTIC and practical???

    If you go back to Fatima or Eygypt (especially Egypt, with new technology, they show all kinds of things about Mary in those photo’s enhancements, you didn’t have in the 60s)

    Rwanda, Balkans there are 1000 and 1000 of witnesses, and what she Prophesized came true, with ethnic cleansing, especially in (Serbia) many witnesses were atheists.

    Then you have Lourdes: hey Stav, can you give me a reason why Bernadette’s body doesn’t rot, and she has been dead over 150 years???

    Why peasants that can’t read or write like Juan Diego at Guadalupe, Bernadette at Lourdes, and the 3 peasant children at Fatima know sophisticated religious terms and dogmas, seemingly out of the blue?

    You Stav my boy, only see what you want to see.” Yeah, riiiiiight, that’s the devil’s work Stav?
    DWC

  106. hvt October 30, 2010 @ 1:35 pm

    Great post Kurt, but alas, methinks it may have fallen on deaf ears. So very sad…:-(

  107. Disgusted White Christian October 30, 2010 @ 1:43 pm

    “President Amedinejad stated words to the effect that the Zionist entity should be wiped off the map. This was quoted out of context to mean the wiping out of Israel. When in fact in was akin to saying that the Soviet entity should be wiped off the map, which it was.”- Dafydd

    True Dafydd, on David Duke’s website, Dr. Duke stated in one of his videos, he was 3 feet from the Iranian president, and he NEVER said that, when he was supposedly quoted as saying that.

    In fact, those words, “wiped off the map” or that phrase, and words, don’t exist in the Persian language.

    What he said was the “Zionist regime” needs to wiped out its brutal, inhuman existence, not Israel, or anywhere else in the Middle East.

    As usual, our pro-Zionist media, twisted and contorted what he said.

    DWC

  108. Kalif October 30, 2010 @ 2:41 pm

    Thank you for all the explanations given so far.

    I know better now than I did before.

  109. Stav October 30, 2010 @ 3:20 pm

    Dear KC,

    Thanks for your comment!

    Perhaps you are right, based on the last response I just read. Predictable really.

    It is clear from the tone used, what is happening here.

    I will continue to occasionally state my opinions, just like everyone else seems to do here though.

    But never without provocation. Because people need to know there is a different view on things, if some of the stuff mentioned here are not in agreement within the context of the OC.

    Stav

  110. arjan October 30, 2010 @ 4:08 pm

    To Donne Chestermill:

    Circumcision also comes in handy during rape.

    For an uncircumcised man it is hard to rape since his foreskin can tear, and he also has no callus on the head.

    It does not hurt a baby boy to get circumcised, because babies don’t have feelings yet.

    Besides God made a mistake in the creation of the penis, and a rabbi can correct that.

    Christians don’t promote rape like some Muslims and Jews, so it is really no use to them.

  111. arjan October 30, 2010 @ 4:22 pm

    My comment may not be helpful, but I don’t like to see Christians defending Jewish practices, and it was off topic.

  112. USSA TODAY October 30, 2010 @ 6:14 pm

    Moshe,

    Are you trying to say immigration has been beneficial to Amerika?

    That’s absurd.

    Dr. Henry Makow (He’s Jewish himself) has thoroughly researched and written about the existence of the Illuminati. Disprove Makow’s thesis if you want to howl about all the “conspiracy nuts.”

    Don’t waste my time, and read the other half when you quote me, quote in context - “somebody should write a blog about the history of psy ops and how they work today because, it’s very reasonable to say that most of the information we receive in our society today is a psy op meant to demoralize us and twist our focus.”

    Psychologocal treachery, games, and diversions are the Khazar M.O. I know this and hopefully anyone else who “Knows how to spell ‘Jews’/KHAZARS” and read the text above can too.

    I won’t play mind games. Conversation over.

  113. Frank L October 30, 2010 @ 7:25 pm

    “OBAMACARE…. IS DHIMMITUDE…. MUSLIMS NOT PAYING FOR HEALTHCARE, NOR TAXES!!!!.. WE’LL PAY FOR THEM!!!

    “Muslims get a pass on the First Amendment to the US Constitution - “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” - Dhimmitude is the Muslim system of controlling non-Muslim populations conquered through jihad.

    “Specifically, it is the TAXING of non-Muslims in exchange for tolerating their presence AND as a coercive means of converting conquered remnants to Islam.

    “The ObamaCare bill is the establishment of Dhimmitude and Sharia Muslim diktat in the United States. Muslims are specifically exempted from the government mandate to purchase insurance, and also from the penalty tax for being uninsured.

    “Islam considers insurance to be “gambling,” “risk-taking” and “usury” and is thus banned. Muslims are specifically granted exemption based on this. How convenient.

    “So I, Ann Barnhardt, a Christian, will have crippling IRS liens placed against all of my assets, including real estate, cattle, and even accounts receivables, and will face hard prison time because I refuse to buy insurance or pay the penalty tax.

    “Meanwhile, Louis Farrakhan will have no such penalty and will have 100% of his health needs paid for by the de-facto government insurance. Non-Muslims will be paying a tax to subsidize Muslims. Period.

    This is Dhimmitude.”

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2491089/posts

    Folks, with Antichrist Obama and the elite mean is that if an American converts to Islam, they are exempt from paying a pretty penny to ObamaCare, while Christians and Americans cover the bill for the Muslims’ Obamacare subsidiaries.

    That means ignorant Americans who never took the Bible seriously will be saying, “Where do I sign up to be a Muslim?” Doesn’t this sound like Mecca and Muslim conquered Palestine?

    Antichrist Obama will be thrown out of office and the country in November, but he will be back soon, and he comes back, as UN world President, he will come back with such rage and anger towards the United States, and he will finally destroy it.

    Who opened the gates in Spain and Constantinople to allow the Muslims to invade it? THE JEWS. These people and their cults are two of a Satanic kind.

    Frank L.

  114. Kalif October 30, 2010 @ 11:32 pm

    @Frank L

    Dhimmitude was a ‘tax’ or privilege to non Muslims because they were exempted from serving in the military.

  115. Stav October 31, 2010 @ 2:09 am

    Dear arjan,

    In my opinion, a practice is not wrong simply because it is Jewish.

    We must take things in context. For example, as Christians, we revere and read the Old Testament, and we must consider us spiritual children of Abraham. We as Christians have also inherited several elements from the Jews, even if they are now transformed in Christ and have taken a new nature.

    For example, we are not sacrificing anymore, as we have the ultimate sacrifice of Christ. But, we still must follow the Ten Commandments.

    What we must despise is Zionist practices, the /Jewish Anti-Christ beliefs, the Talmud etc. etc. But we cannot deny the fact that Christianity is the true continuation of Israel here on earth and thus, carries some of the Jewish heritage.

    Stav

  116. x October 31, 2010 @ 2:46 am

    Judeo Masonic Zionist Beast murder again in the name of Judeo Masonic lies.

    Afghan Official: 17 Insurgents Killed in South

  117. Glory B. October 31, 2010 @ 3:15 am

    Dear Dafydd,

    First, I want to apologize for making fun of your name. I guess there are still traces of Jewish vindictiveness in me, although I’ve tried to get rid of them. I was unaware of the Welsh origin of “Dafydd,” and I certainly have nothing against Welsh people.

    I confess that I don’t know many Welsh people, so I can’t say that “many of my best friends are Welsh,” other than having read some of the poetry of Dylan Thomas.

    I know someone at church who just got back from a trip to Wales, and he said it is a beautiful country. And I do know that Welsh people have beautiful singing voices and are famous for their choirs. So anyway, I apologize and thank you for making me more aware of your ancestry.

    As to the other matter, frankly I’m getting tired of this argument, and it’s really distracting us from the important purpose, which is to fight the devilish work of Satan and his worshippers, the Jews.

    Let me make one thing clear: Just as we know that Jews have a world agenda of destroying Christianity, we know that Jews had an economic stranglehold on Germany, and kept the German people poor while they — the Jews — feasted and drank in nightclubs.

    The Jews deserved to be punished for their many crimes, not the least of which was for crucifying Christ, just as they deserve to be punished for the stranglehold they have on us, the Christians in America.

    Bro. Nathanael is an instrument of the Lord in calling attention to the evil ways of the Jews, and his ultimate reward will be to be with Our Lord in Heaven.

    My one big complaint with Hitler was in his lumping former Jews like myself (and Bro. Nathanael, and others) in with the Jews who stuck to their evil belief system. That was true even of people whose families had left Judaism many years, even hundreds of years before.

    I don’t think those people should have been killed, but they were. Hitler and his underlings also destroyed innocent Christians (Poles and Russians, to name only two), and that was wrong. If Hitler had been successful, there would have been no such person as the former Catholic archbishop of France, Cardinal Jean-Marie Lustiger, who converted from Judaism when he was a teen-ager.

    As to the specific points of your post, I don’t want to go into those arguments, which as I said are distracting. Was Eichmann Jewish? No, he wasn’t Jewish — his parents were Protestant, and he wouldn’t have been let into the SS if he couldn’t prove that his ancestors were Christian as far back as 250 years.

    There are also rumors that Heydrich was Jewish, and even that Der Fuehrer had Jew in his background. That doesn’t make them true.

    Was Hoess tortured? Yes, he was and maybe he made statements under duress. But there were too many incriminating papers that he signed when he was the Auschwitz commander, that came to light after the war (the Germans are meticulous record-keepers), for him to dismiss the gas chambers as not having been used to kill people.

    The six million figure — probably an exaggeration (I read somewhere that the number six million has some symbolic significance to the Jews, who used it before in other contexts). So maybe it was four million, or a million and a half.

    The point is that people, including many non-Jews, were killed for their ancestry, but those people are not played up or given any attemtion because the Jews are in control of the history books.

    Of course the Jew-communists killed millions of Christians, and that fact has been, like you say, flushed down the memory hole. The Jews will kill anyone who gets in their way, but still there are courageous people like Bro. Nathanael who are striving to expose their evil ways.

    So let’s stop this ridiculous bickering and get on with the important work, which is to combat Jewish evil and their attempt to dominate the world and exterminate non-Jewish people wherever and whenever they can.

  118. George October 31, 2010 @ 4:07 am

    Dear Moshe,

    I see in your response many things that show you missed my last point: Might is right.

    Whenever one is in power and able to abuse it - then yes they will - hence all the bad examples displayed by Christians in the past.

    Yet you seem to miss my point - or perhaps don’t want to listen to it. We can not brush away the eternal truth of Christ in support for a religion such as Islam which may have maintained its moralistic vitues at a higher level than the Western world in recent history.

    Simply look back at the dogmas of each religion, and the historic examples and you will see quite clearly that Islam is NO friend of Christianity and has much more in common with Judaism.

    If Islam was a friend of Christianity then it would have at least accepted the Gospels and Christian heritage. Instead all forms of Judaic heresy regarding the person of Christ are to be in the Koran, such as the denial of His divinity, crucifixion, resurrection and salvific plan for humanity.

  119. Disgusted White Christian October 31, 2010 @ 6:49 am

    Stav

    When you attack what others hold dear, you have no more credibility Stav.

    People can see through bigotry in any form it comes in.

    DWC

  120. Disgusted White Christian October 31, 2010 @ 7:56 am

    Stav,

    Don’t address comments to me anymore, because I don’t deal with closed minded people.

    I love Bro Nate (who is Orthodox also by the way) because he is open to everyone on here: Muslims, Christians, and even other Jews.

    I don’t deal with people that would rather create dissension amongst other truth seekers, in all faiths: Christian, Judaism,Islam, Hindu and Buddhism.

    Don’t ever address me anymore.

    By the way Stav, unlike you, you are still my brother in Christ, you just need to find the right path.

    DWC

  121. x October 31, 2010 @ 8:23 am

    Another Zionist beast bombing:

    Six killed by car bomb in Baghdad (DPA).

  122. x October 31, 2010 @ 8:27 am

    This is typical phrase for the only terrorists on the planet, they come out like this after “terror plot.”

    # 15:42
    Netanyahu: Bomb plot means ‘rising wave’ of terrorism (DPA)

  123. Kalif October 31, 2010 @ 8:38 am

    @Gloria B

    If you google ‘Jews in Hitler’s Army’ you get more than 2,000,000 hits and besides there are many documents that I have seen that support the fact that many Jews were indeed in the SS as well as in the Gestapo and a possibility that Hitler himself may have been Jewish on his mother’s side.

    @George

    Muslims believe in 4 books.

    1. The Torah
    2. Zaboor ( Whatever it is)
    3. Injeel ( The Gospel of Jesus)
    4. The Koran.

    In its early days Islam had a lot of assistance from the Orthodox Christians of Abbysinia who regarded the Muslims as ‘just another sect’ of Christianity.

    It is unreasonable to highlight the differences between Christianity and Islam given that differences between various sects of Christianity exist which are deep and irreconciliable.

    It pays to learn of similarities instead which there are many and surprising.

    What I have found personally is that all these 3 religions are highly blooded throughout history and with a straight face each claims to be the true religion and one of and for peace and a way for salvation.

    Also each of them subscribes to keeping the 10 commandments yet each one of them has flouted the very first one which is ‘Thou Shalt not kill’. And given that they all believe that we are made in His image then the very act of killing is actually a sacrilege in the name of his image.

  124. Moshe October 31, 2010 @ 8:47 am

    Dear USSA TODAY

    October 30, 2010 @ 6:14 pm

    – Moshe,

    Are you trying to say immigration has been beneficial to Amerika?

    That’s absurd. –

    No it’s great. Now Americans can get to know what it was like for the American Indians and have an apology and peace treaties at the LOCAL level with the various Tribes.

    – Dr. Henry Makow (He’s Jewish himself) has thoroughly researched and written about the existence of the Illuminati. Disprove Makow’s thesis if you want to howl about all the “conspiracy nuts.” –

    The “Illuminati” is just another front company for JEWS.

    J-E-W-S own the Banks, the News Media, Wall Street, The State Department, Hollywood etc…

    Only scaredy cats and Henry Makow use the word “Illuminati.”

    What J-E-W-S want is for the word “Jew” to disapear from the vocabularly to be replaced by P.C terms that they can wiggle through. JEWS baby! JEWS!

    – Don’t waste my time, and read the other half when you quote me, quote in context - “somebody should write a blog about the history of psy ops and how they work today because, it’s very reasonable to say that most of the information we receive in our society today is a psy op meant to demoralize us and twist our focus.” –

    Anyone who uses the term “Illuminati” is a gutless idiot at best or a JEW playing word games.

    JEWS baby!

    Say it LOUD and say it PROUD! J-E-W-S.

    – Psychologocal treachery, games, and diversions are the Khazar M.O. –

    Are you saying that only the Khazar Jews are treacherous? :-D

    Sweetie - who was running the slave trade and dealing opium for the Crown while the Khazars were still having their relations with their cousins in a Shetyl in Kracow?

    The Sephardic were/are just as bad. Not to mention the Berbers, North Africans and whoever else converted over the years as their minds were infected with poison. The only “good Jew” on the planet lives in a place where they know how to deal with Jews - marginalise them, keep them from high office and out of the military ala Iran.

    – I know this and hopefully anyone else who “Knows how to spell ‘Jews’/KHAZARS” and read the text above can too.

    I won’t play mind games. Conversation over. –

    You still can’t say “JEW” can you?

  125. Stav October 31, 2010 @ 9:03 am

    Dear DWC,

    I am sorry that I upset you, I sincerely apologize if thats the way it came across. I will not respond to you directly again, if that’s your wish, but please let me explain my side as a last post to you.

    What I post here is what I sincerely believe. It’s not personal. I sincerely disagree with what you say. I respect you as a person and a Brother, created by the same God. But, your ideas, are a different thing. I can disagree with them, and to prove them wrong I have to attack them. That is, your ideas, not you personally.

    Regarding attacking what people love, my last response to you was a reply to yours, which as far as I understand it, is an attempt to make people accept the apparitions. That goes against what I believe, yet it is posted and brought us, again and again in the comments section of every article.

    Shall I then remain silent when you post anything you want even if is deeply offending?

    To make it very specific, I believe that Russia has all the consecration it needs, being Orthodox. Thats my personal opinion. Yet you feel it’s just perfectly fine to present your point of view, which in regards to the apparitions, means that Russia needs to be consecrated.

    Do you realize that Br. Nathanael belongs to the OC of Russia? Therefore, you are telling us, that his Church and my Church, since there is no separation between the Greek and Russian Churches, are incomplete, and in need of some kind of consecration? That is deeply offending.

    You tell me. Shall I simply accept you demands to not respond to your posts, because they are offending to you, while all the time, it is you who brings up the subject, again and again?

    Stav

  126. Moshe October 31, 2010 @ 9:15 am

    DEAREST George
    October 31, 2010 @ 4:07 am

    – Dear Moshe,

    I see in your response many things that show you missed my last point: Might is right. –

    Go on…

    – Whenever one is in power and able to abuse it - then yes they will - hence all the bad examples displayed by Christians in the past. –

    Yes, but it is only Christians running around screaming that the Muslims are coming to eat their babies while RIGHT NOW allegedly “Christian” cruise missiles, Apache Gunships, M-16’s, F-16’s rain down DEATH day after day on the Iraqi’s and Palestinians.

    So WHO has the right to be scared right now and pissed off? Christians? I dont think so. Shame on the “alleged” Christians.

    – Yet you seem to miss my point - or perhaps don’t want to listen to it. We can not brush away the eternal truth of Christ –

    Who says I am brushing away anything?

    – …in support for a religion such as Islam which may have maintained its moralistic vitues at a higher level than the Western world in recent history. –

    I am simply saying Christians should shut their mouths, GET THEIR OWN AFFAIRS IN ORDER and STOP dissing Islam. I dont agree with Islam, over the Word of God Incarnate. I am just saying LEAVE THEM THE HELL ALONE.

    – Simply look back at the dogmas of each religion, and the historic examples and you will see quite clearly that Islam is NO friend of Christianity and has much more in common with Judaism. –

    Dear friend, the ANGLICAN CHURCH is NO FRIEND of Christianity according to the theological discourse you wish to follow.

    Most Christians don’t even believe in the Resurrection and Divinity of Christ - let alone the Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Atheists, Agnostics, Shinto Buddhists and the drunk I walk past on the way to my morning coffee.

    What gives? Are you saying Islam is the ENEMY because they do not live in accord with a core precept of the Christian Faith? You are at war with the world then my friend.

    – If Islam was a friend of Christianity then it would have at least accepted the Gospels and Christian heritage. –

    So if a person doesn’t accept Christian theology you are going to what? Spit on them? Islam doesn’t have to accept diddly.

    Who wouldn’t have trouble with a God that is One that manifests into Three as it comes into the Time and Space world, and lives within a mortal body and can levitate and brew an excellent wine at weddings?

    – Instead all forms of Judaic heresy regarding the person of Christ are to be in the Koran, such as the denial of His divinity, crucifixion, resurrection and salvific plan for humanity. –

    Read my above reply.

    You are all Pharisees. Dogmatic, insistent and not seeing the forest for the trees. You speak as the Pharisees did of Christ…”for He heals the blind on the Sabbath! [shock, horror, pant]”

    “He plucks ears of corn on the Sabbath! [shock, horror, pant]”

    “He dines with whores, sinners and tax collectors! [shock, horror, pant]”

    “He raises the dead! [shock, horror, pant]”

    “He let a whore wash His feet with her hair! [shock, horror, pant]”

    “He has long hair! [shock, horror, pant]”

    Now that alleged “Christians” have allowed a bunch of Athiests, Jews, Communists and Nihilists to take over their countries - turn their 14 year old daughters into whores and their young males into irresponsible, disrespectful, beer swilling mook generation morons - God has, in His good Providence sent the Muslim over to show the Christian retard how it is to be done.

    How to dress modestly, be respectful, bow ones head to the ground 5 times a day and eventually, take an AK47 to Hollywood, Madison Avenue and every television tower in the country.

    Teach us how to defend our Faith, Muslims! We are weak, pathetic, like jelly, scared, cowardly and most of all - ready for the FEMA Camps!

    Teach us how to be men again! Teach us how to fight like the warriors in Iraq who go up against tanks and gunship helicopters and F-16’s to defend their women, their honor and their children.

    Teach us how to be steadfast in the Faith like the Palestinians, trodden on, spat on and cursed for 60+ years but they stand strong and tall and will not give in!

    Teach us because God has abandoned us because we are fat, lazy and worthy of the wrath of God sooner rather than later.

    I will NEVER accept Islam nor any other Faith as the structure through which I approach the Godhead as commanded by Jesus Christ. The New Testament is the Word of God but by God it will take a “Muslim” to live it.

  127. Disgusted White Christian October 31, 2010 @ 9:48 am

    “To make it very specific, I believe that Russia has all the consecration it needs, being Orthodox. Thats my personal opinion. Yet you feel it’s just perfectly fine to present your point of view, which in regards to the apparitions, means that Russia needs to be consecrated.” - Stav

    That’s not true, in fact, I love Putin, he openly celebrates Easter and Christmas and
    wants it publicly demonstrated. To me this illustrates, what you stated, that they, Russia are now under God’s grace which helped Putin rid Russia of the last vestiges of Godless communism.

    Obama embraces Talmudic Judaism in a country that is close to 80% Christian, and no one says a word!

    Is the Orthodox church more open then Roman Catholic on this, yes I agree 1000% with you. Many are Zionist Jew puppets.

    In fact, I believe the opposite, that Russia was consecrated, as you stated, as Putin shows this to be true. Did the Catholic Church complain when Obama made them cover up Jesus and Mary, when he visited Notre Dame and Georgetown?

    No they didn’t, because they lack the spine now and bow to political correctness and World Zionism.

    Does that make “Mother Mary” works of them or Satan, of course not, it is why the Jews
    or their puppets portray Mary with fecal matter on her, in paintings, and Jesus pornographically in Nate’s home state of Colorado, which an enraged female truck driver, broke the glass containment and ripped the painting to pieces.

    She was arrested. They should of given her a medal.

    Stav, all I illustrated to you is wherever Mary has been, it is followed by conversion, and hallowed activity, this can’t be denied. The butchering in Serbia, and Rwanda, came because they didn’t heed her warnings!

    By the way, when Father Joseph starts preaching dogma, or argues, I tell him too, this forum is NOT TO ARGUE RELIGIOUS POLITICS, IT IS TO EXPOSE ZIONIST SUPREMACY!

    DWC

  128. Disgusted White Christian October 31, 2010 @ 11:03 am

    What has “American Jewry’s Push For Massive Immigration” done, or in the process of doing???

    Exactly what it is intended to do:lead us into a DEPRESSION, from which there is no return, and 3rd World status ourselves.

    http://www.davidduke.com/images/dominoes4.jpg

    More Bank Failures: 139 in 2010 so far (versus 140 for all of 2009)

    by Jeff Davis

    America’s financial collapse continues apace. The bank closures just keep on coming and coming.

    Yahoo News reports: “Regulators on Friday shut down a total of seven banks in Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas and Arizona, lifting to 139 the number of U.S. banks that have fallen this year as soured loans have mounted and the economy has sputtered.

    The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. took over the banks, the largest of which by far was Hillcrest Bank, based in Overland Park, Kan., with $1.6 billion in assets. A newly chartered bank subsidiary of Boston-based NBH Holdings Corp. was set up to take over Hillcrest’s assets and deposits.

    The new subsidiary is called Hillcrest Bank N.A. The FDIC and Hillcrest Bank N.A. agreed to share losses on $1.1 billion of the failed bank’s assets.

    Its failure is expected to cost the deposit insurance fund $329.7 million. Also shuttered were First Bank of Jacksonville in Jacksonville, Fla., with $81 million in assets; Progress Bank of Florida, based in Tampa, with $110.7 million in assets; First National Bank of Barnesville in Barnesville, Ga., with $131.4 million in assets; Gordon Bank of Gordon, Ga., with $29.4 million in assets; First Suburban National Bank in Maywood, Ill., with $148.7 million in assets; and First Arizona Savings, based in Scottsdale, Ariz., with assets of $272.2 million.”

    The bottom line is that the minority subprime disaster will ultimately cost the banks about $1.5 trillion.

    We’re also seeing some foreclosures on commercial property now as the slow economy is hitting the malls.

    More and more of these banks are simply disappearing into the La Brea Tar Pit as both subprime and commercial mortgages continue to fail.

    The Yahoo article notes “With 139 closures nationwide so far this year, the pace of bank failures exceeds that of 2009, which was already a brisk year for shutdowns with a total of 140.

    By this time last year, regulators had closed 106 banks. The pace has accelerated as banks’ losses mount on loans made for commercial property and development.

    Many companies have shut down in the recession, vacating shopping malls and office buildings financed by the loans. That has brought delinquent loan payments and defaults by commercial developers.”

    The larger banks are still snapping up these smaller banks’ “assets,” but they’re not assets, they are worthless paper that will never be repaid.

    How long before the larger banks heavily invested in commercial mortgage and loaded up with the worthless paper of all these “acquisitions” start going down as well? Bank of America is a prime example.

    I have yet to hear an explanation for how Bank of America was going to handle the tidal wave of debt that they absorbed when they took over the failing Countrywide Mortgage. Or are they going down already and we’re just not being told of the fact?

    There are over 800 more banks on the FDIC’s list of troubled banks. Some pundits are predicting that half of these banks could fail in the next year, meaning a BIG acceleration in bank failures.

    So far, we have been spared the full impact of the subprime mortgage disaster.

    There should have been a secondary wave of lay offs from cities and states because of the plunging home values and the loss of property tax revenue.

    (Many of the houses caught up in foreclosure, wind up in a state of limbo where the property tax bill keeps going to the person who is losing the house –because the banks don’t want to get stuck with those taxes.

    There are probably millions of houses, which are not producing any tax revenue.)

    Many states have dragged their feet when it comes to laying off government workers. California is sinking in debt as it postpones the lay off of at least 200,000 government jobs that it can no longer afford.

    We could save ourselves a fortune in government expense by {deporting 20 million illegal aliens}, but California isn’t going to do this, and the Feds are interfering with Arizona’s attempt to kick out illegals. This may be the first Depression in world history caused primarily by {minorities and political correctness}.

    DWC

  129. x October 31, 2010 @ 11:28 am

    Did you see this?

    Zionist beast even name out the bombings they did it. The only terrorists on the planet are the Zionist beast.

    Prime Minister says attack on Madrid, London, Mumbai and Bali are all part of same attack ‘directed at the nations of the world.’

  130. Donna chestergimli October 31, 2010 @ 12:27 pm

    Disgusted White Christian

    I am Catholic, and I believe the Apparitions. From what I have read, Pope Pius XII consecrated the world in 1942. According to what I understand, through an inner locution, Our Lord, Jesus Christ, told Sister Lucy that this consecration would be enough to end the war.

    Personally, I believe that avoidance of WWII was what the Virgin Mary requested the consecration of Russia for in the first place, to stop WWII. The 3rd secret, I, like many others, including Father Gruner, believe was to stop the Second Vatican Council from taking place.

    I just want to say something and that is that the Blessed Mother appeared in Garabandal, Spain in the early 60’s and told of a warning, and within a year, a great miracle that every one in the world would see via television I suppose.

    Then everyone will believe. If man does not repent after this miracle, then a great chastisement will take place. I am awaiting this warning and great miracle. We shall see.

  131. Duke Mantee October 31, 2010 @ 12:42 pm

    Dear Kalif:

    If you are still around please read ACTS Chapter 10 and 11, which answers your concern specifically regarding eating pork, as well as shellfish and other formerly forbidden foods.

    Peter had two visions where he was shown and commanded to graciously accept these as food.

    We have no idea whether Christ himself ever ate pork but it is not relevant as shown by the Scripture. The only thing we are forbidden to eat now is the blood.

  132. Disgusted White Christian October 31, 2010 @ 1:38 pm

    Duke Mantee,

    Great answer to Kalif, very very good!

    Donna, thank you for your comments.I have a stepson that was exploring Mormonism, and
    he had, I think they call them “elders” over.

    Most of them were gracious, and humble, but one I didn’t like from the start, and he sees the Rosary hanging in his room, in which he replies, “ohh, you don’t need that garbage anymore.”

    That was it, I told him to get out, and I have no time, and patience for those that DO NOT RESPECT WHAT OTHERS VALUE!

    Another case, there was this old Italian women, when I was young, that was real religious, she was a “Mother Teresa type,” give you the coat off her back. She had stigmata:the wounds of Christ, similar to Padre Pio and Saint Francis.

    I heard the same “GARBAGE” “OHH THAT IS OF THE DEVIL.”

    Now, LOGICALLY why would the devil give someone anything remotely associated with Christ?

    Again, I go to Scripture, “would Satan cast out Satan.”

    Sometimes these people’s ignorance wants to make me scream!

    DWC

  133. charlie October 31, 2010 @ 1:44 pm

    You are telling us, that his Church and my Church, since there is no separation between the Greek and Russian Churches, are incomplete, and in need of some kind of consecration? That is deeply offending.

    Stav.

    The Orthodox Church was not able to throw off the yoke of Communism.

    It took the consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary by the Catholic church under the leadership of Pope John Paul II in the 1980’s to defeat Communism in Russia and the rest of the Communist bloc.

    No matter how many time Fr Joseph disagrees with that fact.

    No matter how many times Stav disagrees with that fact.

    No matter.

    And you will have to account for your ingratitude.

  134. Kalif October 31, 2010 @ 2:29 pm

    Duke Mantee thanks I have read ACTS Chapter 10 and 11.

    I think it is only the Abrahamic people only that are forbidden to eat pork - Jews, Arabs and Ethiopians. Mainly that the porcine was used to cleanse the ark that Noah kept the animals hence the reason for it being dirty.

    I have nothing against pork anyway because I like salami sandwich, although I am not supposed to have it.

    Its only the queasy feeling when having something one is not used to.

    By the way vegetarians get a great laugh when ‘masa hari’ choose which animal can be eaten and which should not !

    Strange that you should mention that the only thing we are forbidden to eat now is blood, isn’t the Christmas pudding made of blood?

  135. Disgusted White Christian October 31, 2010 @ 2:37 pm

    Charlie & Stav:

    That is a good valid point. The 3 central figures in bringing down the Godless communism in the Russian/Soviet bloc were two Catholics and a Protestant.

    Pope John Paul, Lech Wałęsa and Ronald Reagan.

    Some gratitude to those 3 individuals should be observed?

    DWC

  136. charlie October 31, 2010 @ 2:56 pm

    DWC,

    Gratitude should be to the entire Catholic world (no formal observance necessary), and not Ronald Reagan (are you serious), but Gorbachev had a large hand in it, in response to those prayers.

  137. x October 31, 2010 @ 3:42 pm

    Look at Zionist beast mafia, terror hoax, all Zionist beast lies:

    Authorities in Yemen release the female computer engineering student from custody that they originally suspected of mailing explosive packages, saying that her identity was stolen.

  138. Moshe October 31, 2010 @ 6:17 pm

    In the end there are FEW people out on the streets and Jesus/God COMMANDS us to get out on the street, follow Him, take up our Cross and give EVERYTHING for the Faith, for His memory and for Justice, Mercy and good works.

    In that Brother Nathaniel Kapner has done more than most and has secured a place in history and maybe the Good Book :-)

  139. fRED October 31, 2010 @ 6:19 pm

    Just an observation.

    I don’t know how much more I can take!

    The back and forth criticism of one Christian denomination (or a point of view not related to fighting Zionism) verses another is getting discouraging.

    I cannot speak for +Br. N, but I tire of the incessant “I’m right and your wrong” that I read among some of the people who blog.

    “Divide and Conquer” is an ancient tactic.

    Jesus said in Mark 9:40 “For he that is not against us is on our part.”

    Our enemy is Zionism who wants to destroy the church and our way of life! Our enemy is not one another!

    In a previous post KURT wrote “I sit here reading these posts and what becomes very apparent is instead of ‘circling the wagons’ and banding together to fight Satan and his ministers we are in effect fighting each other.”

    In more than one post +Bro. N has said as much! Why do many of you keep going off-topic and fighting each other?

    We as a group do not have enough unity to plant a tree.

    One would argue a wooden shovel won’t work – the hole is not deep enough.

    Others will say it’s the wrong time of year - not enough water is being used.

    Still - the tree does not get planted!

    Paul questioned the church at Rome what authority they had in judging another man’s servant –God is able to make him stand (Romans 14:4).

    So I ask all of you who post here on +Bro N’s website, when you are blasting each other, how is that furthering the cause of Zionism?

    All men and women, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Agnostics , Blacks, Whites, and Yellow who recognize that the Zionist are out to build their kingdom on the backs of the unwashed and unclean “Gentiles,” are for Jesus whether they realize it or not!

    That doesn’t make them a Christian - but they are not our enemy!

    I end now - but I expect as others have noted, this will fall on deaf ears!

    Paul ask the church at Thessalonica to pray for him - +Bro N. is asking the same, and we should do the same for one another!

    fRED

  140. Moshe October 31, 2010 @ 6:21 pm

    History is taking place people - don’t miss it!

    GET OUT ON THE STREET.

    When your children ask - “Daddy, what did you do when the war was on and the fate of the world hung in the balance?”

    “Well my dear I banged away on my keyboard furiously but I was afraid of being called an anti-semite so I had to do things on the quiet.”

    “Daddy, how much money did you send people who were doing great work - things you were too afraid to do?”

    “Well darling I couldn’t send much. In fact I sent nothing. What, with my porn subscription, beer, wife’s shopping addiction, your dolly collection and your brothers X-Box game collection there was nothing left over.”

    “Daddy, what does ‘gutless, spineless, slacker’ mean?”

  141. USSA TODAY October 31, 2010 @ 7:40 pm

    Moshe,

    What are your thoughts on psyops?

    Political correctness has never been an issue for me.

    All you need to do is look at the Hollywood Execs, Federal Reserve, Wall Street elites, etc. to see a common trend-Jews/Khazars in power.

    Even the NFL, where so many dumbed down potential political protesters spend their time
    has at least 1/3 of the Teams controlled by “Jews”/Turkic Khazars.

    I agree with your comments to George.

    We invade all these foreign lands so J-E-W-S (mainly Khazars) can make money in defense and banking and many of these idiots all think Muslims are going to “eat their babies” as you put it in such a comical way.

    I’ve always been and always said America needs to be political isolationists.

    It’s the Globalist elite who bring Amerika into these baloney conflicts so they can parasitically continue draining this “morally rotten corpse of a Nation” as Joe Cortina says.

    Speaking of a Nation in the sewer you said it well, “Now that alleged “Christians” have allowed a bunch of Athiests, Jews, Communists and Nihilists to take over their countries - turn their 14 year old daughters into whores and their young males into irresponsible, disrespectful, beer swilling mook generation morons”.

    Bottom line - Jews, Americans, Muslims wake up. The NWO elites/Illuminati are using all of us to build a Global government/plantation. When does centralized power ever benefit anyone but the elites?

  142. Hoff October 31, 2010 @ 8:12 pm

    I might mention here that I have found Zionism very deceitful.

    There is a double meaning in all the words Zionists use, and [Chaim] Weizmann himself said one time, ‘Let the British or anyone else talk about Zionism and they can use our terminology, but we know what the meaning of it is. It has one meaning to us, one meaning to the Gentiles.’

    They’ve always had this double-entendre in everything that they have done.

    ***Whenever they use words you have to try to find out what is the context in which they are using these words.***

    Hoff: What have l told you over and over again? That whatever the Jews do they use codewords to HIDE what the no good Jews are up to.

    ”Then Emmanuel Cellar pounded upon Mr. Truman’s desk and said, ‘And if you don’t come out for a Jewish state we’ll run you out of town.’”

    This is A MUST Read!

    http://www.davidduke.com/general/edwin-m-wright-comments-on-the-zionist-takeover-of-america_20339.html#more-20339

  143. Halina October 31, 2010 @ 8:53 pm

    “This forum SHOULD NOT BE TO ARGUE RELIGIOUS POLITICS, IT SHOULD BE TO EXPOSE ZIONIST SUPREMACY!”

    Kurt and fRED are absolutely right on their observations.

    It is so sad and heartbreaking to see you squabbling over religion.

    No wonder this puts people off it!

    I even feel ashamed sometimes for I know that Zionists who read this forum are enjoying seeing you fighting each other.

    Time to put a STOP to it or many people will simply become indifferent to your cause.

  144. Hoff October 31, 2010 @ 10:53 pm

    Excerpt from The Ultimate World Order — As Pictured in “The Jewish Utopia” By Robert H. Williams

    The Jewish machine made “war” on the feudal estates of Europe and later on the landed aristocracy, precipitating the bloody French Revolution and subsequent Communist-type class revolutions, which destroyed the last vestiges of the landed estates and many of the people who had built them.

    The landed estates had been founded by the finest of the Teutonic and Celtic tribesmen, the leaders of the red headed Celts, Goths and Norse Vikings, the Fair Angles and Saxons . . . giant men, described by historians as men of great stature, personal dignity, dogged honesty and general leadership.

    It was this mighty racial leadership, the foundation of this age of civilization, which had to be wiped out if the nationalistic Jews were to march on.

    The propagandists of Jewish revolutions ever have disguised their real aims; they shape their revolutions along class and religious lines, but the result is race warfare, since it is by and large the remnants of the old northern blood and character, even though mixed with other white elements, which constitute the “upper class.”

    The men of ability and ambition naturally become the upper class, and in Europe and the Americas, these men are for the most part men of Anglo-Saxon and closely related stock.

    And as for the war on religion, both the Communists and the Zionists hate Christianity, attack it from without and infiltrate and change it from within — and in killing millions of Christian leaders the Communists destroy the gentile leadership.

    The war is against us, but the Jewish strategists, apparently considering themselves to be a racial unit, have always been too smart to use the word race (except in writing strictly for their own kind; Mr. Higger, for instance, speaks of his people as a race.)

    Their appeal, analyzed, is exactly a racial appeal, but outnumbered a hundred to one by people of other races, they would be foolish to launch out openly on a race war.

    Rather they must condemn as bigotry any thought of race while, paradoxically, quickening the “race” or tribal pride of their own people by constant talk of race bigotry and “anti-Semitism” among people who oppose their program.

    Notice how this cunning propaganda works: it makes the gentiles (the Whites) ashamed to stand up for the survival of their race, fearing to be called a scare name. But it makes the Jews feel that they are being attacked racially, and thus it quickens their “race” pride.

    http://iamthewitness.com/books/The-Ultimate-World-Order-as-Pictured-in-The-Jewish-Utopia-1957.pdf

  145. x November 1, 2010 @ 2:18 am

    See Zionist beast liars, while Zionist beast was behind mass terror and while Zionist beast is Al Qaeda — do you see the scum?

    Key Al Qaeda Figure Linked to Mail Bombs

    The man who allegedly helped plant explosives on Christmas Day is now the chief suspect of the intercepted mail bombs planted in ink cartridges sent from Yemen to the U.S.

  146. Hoff November 1, 2010 @ 3:55 am

    “Rape and Reality in America”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeZAFhf3hXw

    37.ooo white women are raped by blacks in America - every year! Zero black women are raped by white people. This is official FBI stats.

    http://www.davidduke.com/general/heres-the-shocking-proof-37460-black-rapes-or-sexual-assaults-on-whites-0-white-sexual-attacks-on-blacks_3567.html

    50 years ago zero white women was raped by blacks. What happen’d? 50 years ago all blacks knew that they was going to get a noose job if they raped a white women. Today the black rapist are treated as movie stars.

  147. Dafydd November 1, 2010 @ 4:27 am

    Dear Glory B.

    Thank you for your apology.

    I do not seek to argue, but to establish the truth.

    Paul Rasinier was a Jewish/French Fabian Socialist who was interned by the National Socialists in camps such as Buchenwald, for his activities with the French resistance.

    He heard rumours about gas chambers being put out by communists in the camps, but saw no evidence of this; so after the war set out to investigate this, leading to his seminal work titled “debunking the Genocide myth.” So he was the first revisionist as such.

    He did this because he knew that when the truth came out it would be very dangerous for Jews.

    The international Red Cross had an official in each of these camps, and never testified to having witnessed any gas chambers for gassing people. In fact they pleaded with the allies to stop bombing the supply routes, as people were dying in the camps from typhus, malnutrition and hunger, due the supplies of medicine and food being cut off.

    Yes we should concentrate on the satanic Jews who are the enemy of humanity; but, this Holocaust lie is being used by them to instil guilt in Europeans and those of European decent.

    At the same time it stifles debate and any criticism of their behaviour with the old canard of defiling the memory of the dead, which is precisely what they do to the Germans continuously.

    It also seeks to raise this to the level of a religion; therefore to question this is akin to saying there is no God in countries such as Saudi Arabia.

    With this, they are basically deifying Jews, and a visit to Holocaust Museums is to pay homage to Jewry.

    We are continually being presented with this Holocaust tale, and stories about Nazis (the Hollywood version!), as opposed to National Socialism in it pure form.

    They are doing this because they know the Great Multitude are repeaters and do not establish the truth for themselves.

    And in so doing ensuring this smoke screen is kept up, so that the real causes of the Second World War are not looked at objectively; because this would lead to a questioning of everything else, which would lead in turn to them being exposed.

    This is why this subject needs to be discussed openly and in a rational manner.

    Then we can get to grips with everything else without this guilt trip being imposed on us the moment we question their activities in Israel and elsehere, and their support for none white immigration into white countries to destroy the racial/cultural identity of these respective nation states, etc.

    Incidentally, there is no credible proof that Adolf Hitler had any Jewish ancestry.

  148. x November 1, 2010 @ 5:30 am

    Zionist beast — the only terrorists murderers keep killing:

    U.S. Missile Attack Kills 5 in NW Pakistan.

    Palestinian wounded by IDF fire near Gaza border fence (Army Radio).

  149. x November 1, 2010 @ 5:45 am

    Did you see the only terrorists on the planet beside their partner beast are talking about terror?

    Do you see the joke they even talk about bombing that they did it? Could you believe it?

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/shin-bet-chief-warns-internet-boosting-global-terror-threat-1.322268

  150. Dutchguy November 1, 2010 @ 5:51 am

    Hi Real Zionist Family:)

    Hoff you are right!!!

    But we all know this kind of information, but what we gonna do now ?

    Is that A) worship God and only

    Or is it B) just keep complaining about evil Zionists

    Or is it C) pick up your weapons and fight against the evil?

    You decide!!

  151. x November 1, 2010 @ 5:54 am

    Zionist beast “Germany” is swinging Zionist beast protocols while Zionist beast organized this as always.

    Do you see how Zionist beast protocols swing 24 hours per day, while the only terrorists murderers sit in offices meetings news and play innocent?

    # 14:48
    Germany suspends passenger flights from Yemen (AP)

    # 13:43
    Germany may extend air cargo ban beyond Yemen (DPA)

  152. Theodor November 1, 2010 @ 5:55 am

    It is a BIG question to me, WHY Jews celebrate Hannukah SO MUCH?

    Is Hellenism their biggest enemy besides ORTHODOXY? Just a question. Why they don’t celebrate any other feast as much as Hannukah?

    I guess it is because of their hate against the Macedonian Greeks, and because their youth adopted Greek culture.

    In 1492 the Turks, after massacring and selling ten thousands of Greeks of Thessaloniki and Macedonia, they brought the Jewish invaders from all around Europe.

    Now they call our GREEK THESSALONIKI (Salonica in Jewish) MOTHER of ISRAEL and want to make a multi cultural city out of it.

    George Soros sponsors the Bulgarians and Slavs of Pseudomacedonia aka FYROM in order to obtain all the resources of the area which is as much as rich to bring 90 million dollars to every Greek.

    Instead, Greece has to pay over 300,000,000,000 euro to the Jews. Out of Greece the Jews have made a multicultural country with over 3 million uncivilized foreigners, who destroy our beautiful and glorious country.

  153. Glory B. November 1, 2010 @ 6:38 am

    Dear Kalif,

    You wrote: “If you google ‘Jews in Hitler’s Army’ you get more than 2,000,000 hits.”

    SO WHAT? THAT DOESN’T MEAN ANYTHING!!!

    “And besides there are many documents that I have seen that support the fact that many Jews were indeed in the SS as well as in the Gestapo and a possibility that Hitler himself may have been Jewish on his mother’s side.”

    WHAT DOCUMENTS? BE SPECIFIC!!!

    Some people believe Hitler’s grandfather was a Rothschild, which is just as ridiculous.

    What is true is that Hitler’s father Alois Schicklgruber was a bastard, literally, a child born out of wedlock, so Hitler’s family background was not illustrious.

  154. Glory B. November 1, 2010 @ 7:04 am

    fRED,

    I absolutely agree with you about Christians fighting each other, on this forum and others. And Halina writes that Zionists who read this forum are enjoying the spectacle of Christians bickering among themselves.

    This infighting should stop immediately. We are all brothers in Christ, including myself, a former Jew, who has accepted Jesus as the Son of God and the Messiah spoken of in the Old Testament, and who the evil Jews have rejected.

    Let’s focus on the real enemy, the Jew, who is plotting our destruction, and what we can do to stop the Jew from carrying out his satanic scheme. (And also the Muslims, who are as bad as the Jews because they also reject Christ as Messiah, but for the moment they are fighting the Jews, which is more than the Zio-Christians are doing.)

    Christians should band together and fight the Jews, not each other.

  155. x November 1, 2010 @ 7:44 am

    This also make sense now if you have seen “Olympics 2012″ logo that spells Zion.

    CIA Mossad MI6 Zion terrorists and mass murderers:

    http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Arts/Arts_/Pictures/2007/06/05/olympics460.jpg

    Discussions about security at the London Games are already well-advanced, involving extensive liaison between Scotland Yard, the military and the major intelligence services - MI6, the CIA and Mossad.

  156. x November 1, 2010 @ 7:57 am

    And Zionist beast UPS mafia who opened up an office in Israhell before this.

    Just another Zionist beast terror hoax, and is also involved in weapons production that they are using in their Zionist beast wars.

  157. Moshe November 1, 2010 @ 8:19 am

    Dear GLORY B…

    STILL a “Jew” I see?

    – (And also the Muslims, who are as bad as the Jews because they also reject Christ as Messiah, but for the moment they are fighting the Jews, which is more than the Zio-Christians are doing.) –

    “Just as bad”…..?

    You are comparing Muslims to Jews?

    You have NOT converted sincerely to Christ. You are STILL calling yourself a Jew. There is no such thing as a Christian Jew.

    Try calling yourself a “Jew” in an Orthodox Church while claiming to be a Christian and see what happens to you.

  158. Disgusted White Christian November 1, 2010 @ 8:22 am

    Glory B and Fred,

    I told Stav this forum is not to argue religious Christian politics.

    I also told that to Father Joseph on another thread.

    I got tired of Stav continually referring to aberrations of Mary as the work of Satan.

    He was constantly promoting the Orthodox faith, when Bro Nate is Orthodox himself, and he doesn’t promote ideology on here, the site is NOT FOR THAT!

    I don’t even think Nate pushes it in his street evangelism? He tries to bring people to Christ, not the Orthodox faith, that should be a person’s OWN PERSONAL choice.

    Bro Nate, please allow this one last post on this subject, then warn people religious dogma will be deleted from now on.

    Ask Joe Cortina, I think, he would agree 100%!

    DWC

  159. Moshe November 1, 2010 @ 8:40 am

    Dear USSA TODAY,

    True, the ruling Jews of America are mainly Polish/Russian Slavic stock - Khazars.

    They were bussed over enmasse from the early 1900’s on. They are FRONT MEN to a man for the Rothschild dynasty. From the Bronfmans to the Frank Loweys to the Silversteins et.al, ALL are nothing but nobodies given a BLACK credit card and a load of frequent flier points.

    Their story is the same…”poor Jew makes good through hard work…” [barf]

    But before the LOWLY Khazars were the Sephardi Royalty who ran the opium, slave trade and financed Columbus — from Vienna and Italy — we had the Montifiores and a dozen Elite Sephardi families who made their way to the Netherlands, where they hide out in Amsterdam’s red light district running the Ecstasy Trade and fronting idiot Serbs to do their dirty work for them and take the heat.

    Israel is ALL OVER Amsterdam. A HOT BED of Jewish subversive activity. At least the British Jews have inherited that English - “it’s just not cricket old boy” attitude somewhat but it just isn’t enough.

    The greatest fear the Jew has is a Christian - Muslim uniting of the wills. It is their most important task - to prevent the Christian and Muslim from coming together.

    They plot night and day to keep it from happening and the sooner the Muslim world realises that, they will BACK OFF and think hard about heading home when the war is over which they will - to a SAFE and SECURE Middle East, Pakistan and Afrika where they can till the soil, build their homes and worship God in their own way according to their sincere heart.

    Jesus said…”No one comes to me except My Father send them.”

    So let God worry about converting Muslims.

    We have other work to do and if we do it, maybe the Muslims will be so impressed the Holy Spirit will fill their hearts and they will know the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, and the great mystery that is before our eyes…”verily I say unto you, the Kingdom of God is within you.”

    Praise God.

  160. Brother Nathanael November 1, 2010 @ 8:43 am

    Dear Real Zionist News Family,

    I am back from my hiatus and working on a new video.

    I have been notified by the Moderation Team that some postings were deleted for Ad Hominems, Threats and Bullying even by regular commentors against each other.

    Everyone, please be OBJECTIVE, RESPECTFUL, STAY ON TOPIC, and DISCUSS ISSUES IN A CIVIL WAY to reduce these problems and complaints.

    +Brother Nathanael

  161. Disgusted White Christian November 1, 2010 @ 9:26 am

    New Duke Video — Rape and Reality in America

    More of what “American Jewry’s Push For Massive Immigration” will mean for us
    White Christians in America.

    http://www.davidduke.com/images/rape-and-reality-in-America.png

    If this was White athletes (remember the white kids accused of raping the Black exotic dancer, later exonerated ) raping a Black girl, they would do 20 years in jail as least, for a hate crime?

    This video is the incredible story of a 16 year old high school cheerleader who is gang raped by a football star and three others.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeZAFhf3hXw

    The rapists are caught in the act, DNA evidence also proves the rape, and THEY WALK.

    Rakheem Bolton is offered a plea bargain and is punished with anger management classes.

    He returns to school. Then the cheerleader who was raped goes back to school, rejoins the squad and when she is told to cheer for her rapist she remains silent.

    For not cheering for her rapist she is kicked off the squad. The whole case is proof of the degeneracy that settled on America and Europe.

    This video is a wakeup call of the Hollywood / NY media induced.

    DWC

  162. Disgusted White Christian November 1, 2010 @ 10:02 am

    Follow Up:

    Call the Governor ( Rick Perry’s) office ( 512-463-200) and the school administration ( 409-385-5574) and make their backsides TEXAS hot! There is NO EXCUSE for this outrage.

    It is the same as what occurred in Knoxville Tennessee and because it was black on white torture, rape and murder, it was not punished as a HATE CRIME, AS “ONLY WHITE PEOPLE CAN HATE.”

    DWC

  163. x November 1, 2010 @ 12:22 pm

    Look at this.

    Zionist terror hoax, even Mossad terror Christmas plot mentioned, and a propaganda for new Zionist war while all terror come from Zionist beast.

    Do you see this scum? And completely the same was with Afghanistan, and Zionist terror and blamed the innocent, then invaded and genocided whole state. Do you see the scum…

    Fox News:

    The Yemeni suspect behind the cargo bombs is also linked to the 2009 Christmas Day terror plot.

    Former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff says we need to beef up security standards overseas.

    Is Yemen the New Afghanistan? [HQ]

  164. x November 1, 2010 @ 12:34 pm

    And Zionist beast official scum even go on TV and lie into the face of whole globe.

    How is this possible in 21st century? What a scum and murderers are all those criminals rooted in whole system. How is this even f—–g possible in the 21st century?

    God bless wiping all this scum from top to bottom “from the pages of history.”

  165. x November 1, 2010 @ 12:37 pm

    And see who of Zionist Homeland Security that was created after Zionist beast mafia bombed the WTC.

    Do you see the scum?

    The only terrorists murderers on the planet are in the news playing terror experts, while all terror, war, poverty and misery come from them. Do you see the joke?

    “Former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff says we need to beef up security standards overseas.”

    And they even say it out loud “same one as Christmas terror…” while this is Zionist beast and always this same one. They even say it out loud, could you believe it?

    Israhell also named out yesterday all their bombings. Could you believe it?

    What a scum these have to be. These are not human, these are mentally ill aliens.

  166. Hoff November 1, 2010 @ 1:29 pm

    The Jews were Gulag commanders in Germany - after WW2. And the Jews killed white Germans by the millions.

    http://www.johnsack.com/an_eye_for_an_eye_photographs.htm

  167. Brother Nathanael November 1, 2010 @ 2:45 pm

    Dear Everyone -

    Okay. My personal hiatus is now completely over. A new Video is about to be posted.

    In defense of “Stav” - he was responding to others’ postings on religious issues. And that is just fine, he has the right to respond in kind.

    I never really see my dear friend and Orthodox Christian brother, “Stav,” ever really initiating anything “religious.”

    He simply responds to other peoples’ “religious” comments and EXPLAINS what the Holy Orthodox Church teaches clearly and definitively. Many actually have written to me stating that they APPRECIATE Stav’s comments and learn a great deal from him.

    Again Everybody - please be respectful of one another as Stav always does - as well as Father Joseph.

    I now am at the point where my time must be spent on priority issues such as working on new articles, Videos, Brother Nathanael Foundation issues, raising support which is at a very low level, and my own personal Spiritual upkeep and maintenance.

    Thus I will from hereon in be more dependent than ever on the RZN Moderation Team.

    So, NO Ad hominems, no bullying, no slanders, no enmities, will be tolerated.

    Moderation Team Please Take Notice.

    +Brother Nathanael

  168. charlie November 1, 2010 @ 2:47 pm

    “A visit to Holocaust Museums is to pay homage to Jewry.”" - Dafydd

    What poppycock. You were doing well up till then.

    Just the opposite is the case .

    From the moment the Jews walk into the Holocaust Museum in Jerusalem they are thrown into confusion and turmoil of soul to obfuscate heir ability to see through the farce they are being presented with, by the voiceover telling them what non Jews think of them — “that Jesus Christ is God, so what kind of low animals are these people for killing God?”

    They express it better than any Christian I ever heard say it.

    The effect on them is obvious.

    Also as far as Hitler is concerned. According to the weight of evidence it is a forgone conclusion that a randy Rothschild fathered his father..or was it his grandfather….whatever.

    Everything else you said was spot on.

    X is the only person on here who is talking about a Zionist “beast”… which means it has a head and a tail. Right on.

  169. Disgusted White Christian November 1, 2010 @ 2:48 pm

    Jewish Faces in Chinese/Red Government

    http://jewishfaces.com/china.html

    Don’t forget their influence in China, Hoff and later, South Africa also?

    Remember Hoff, communism and socialism was/is their tool to usurp historically White Christian rule, wherever and whenever they can?

    They exploit destitute human conditions, that most of the time, their heartless capitalism has created.

    Communism is the ” Jew Zionist opium” for the destitute mases, and once these poor souls are hooked, they are in for one horrible come down.

    When the ruthless Zionist Jew, wraps his suffocating 666 tentacles all a round the
    impoverished people.

    Mao threw them out faster than Stalin, because he had hindsight, on what these international parasites will do!

    DWC

  170. Disgusted White Christian November 1, 2010 @ 2:52 pm

    “I never really see my dear friend and Orthodox Christian brother, “Stav,” ever really initiating anything “religious.” - Bro Nate

    I made no religious statements to him, in fact, I agreed with his assessment that God had found Russia, and he CONTINUED with the Holy Mary /Devil thing, which I will not tolerate, and he is lucky Cortina wasn’t on here, or he really would of got a tongue lashing???

    Please Nate, you made your Peace, let me make mine?

    DWC

  171. KathJuliane November 1, 2010 @ 3:18 pm

    Dear Charlie,

    From the earliest days of the Apostolic Church as taught by the Holy Apostles themselves, the COMMON people received both species of the Holy Eucharist during Divine Liturgy throughout the ENTIRE Church, East and West, until the West began to doctrinally change their practices in the 12th century.

    Who changed Apostolic Tradition of communion in both kinds? The West or the East?

    The West obligingly answers:

    Excerpt from a Catholic source:

    “II. HISTORY OF DISCIPLINARY VARIATIONS

    “-From the First to the Twelfth Century.-It may be stated as a general fact, that down to the twelfth century, in the West as well as in the East, public Communion in the churches was ordinarily administered and received under both kinds.

    “That such was the practice in Apostolic times is implied in I Cor., xi, 28 (see above), nor does the abbreviated reference to the “breaking of bread” in the Acts of the Apostles (ii, 46) prove anything to the contrary.

    “The witnesses to the same effect for the sub-Apostolic and subsequent ages are too numerous, and the fact itself too clearly beyond dispute, to require that the evidence should be cited here. But side by side with the regular liturgical usage of Communion sub utraque, there existed from the earliest times the custom of communicating in certain cases under one kind alone….”

    [And then goes on to discuss situations of “communicating…under one kind alone” at home and other places.

    The “under one kind” in the Latin sense confuses the ancient traditional and liturgical difference between the Eucharistic Lamb and the Antidoron, and the Presanctified Gifts reserved for other occasions and reasons.

    Antidoron (from Greek, meaning “instead of the gifts”; in Arabic, qurban) is the remaining bread from a loaf of prosphora (the leavened bread) after the Lamb has been removed for the Holy Eucharist.

    The Antidoron is blessed but not consecrated and distributed in Eastern Orthodox and other Eastern Christian churches.

    It comes from the remains of the loaves of bread (prosphora) from which portions are cut for consecration as the Eucharist during the Divine Liturgy and are taken home for use in home liturgical prayers.

    Blessed bread is not the consecrated Eucharistic bread, therefore bread taken home is NOT the same thing as receiving “just one kind” in terms of the Eucharist.]

    http://oce.catholic.com/index.php?title=Communion_under_Both_Kinds

  172. KathJuliane November 1, 2010 @ 3:43 pm

    “And if we were then all of us are also priests able to ring down Christ from heaven whenever we feel like it.” - charlie

    Actually, yes, through the Holy Spirit, which is what a grace said at meals is all about for our Lord’s own “royal priesthood of believers.”

    For example, this little common daily prayer for Christ’s blessing (not the same as the Consecration of the Eucharistic Gifts and other Sacraments by ordained priests and bishops at Liturgy) on meals while making the sign of the Cross over it:

    “Through the prayers of the holy fathers, O Christ God, Bless the food and drink of thy servants, for only Thou art Holy, unto the Ages of Ages. Amen.”

    And then there are thanksgiving prayers said also at the end of meals as well.

  173. Stav November 1, 2010 @ 3:58 pm

    Dear DWC and all,

    You say:

    “I made no religious statements to him, in fact, “…

    Well, here is the recorded “history” visible for all to see in this page:

    I post a response to Moshe:

    October 29, 2010 @ 12:33 pm

    In which I say:

    “Unlike the more outspoken and high profile Catholic and Protestant “Churches,””…
    (By the way that statement is based on facts.)

    Then, you respond to me, which is perfectly fine by the way, as follows:

    Disgusted White Christian
    October 29, 2010 @ 1:14 pm

    “That is just bigotry Stav, every church or religious institution has used some kind of violence that goes against God’s Laws.”

    I would classify this as religious, which, as far as I go, is perfectly fine too.

    ONLY then, I respond to you as such:

    October 29, 2010 @ 4:44 pm

    Hi DWC,

    You say:

    ““Unlike the more outspoken and high profile Catholic and Protestant “Churches,””…

    I have no problem with free speech, you can tell me anything you want. But, as I have stated earlier, in 99.99999% of the cases, I respond to what others say. Only then, I insert my opinion, for any and all to (God Willing) benefit from. And, to which, I usually encounter quite big opposition.

    Which in a free speech environment, is again as far as I go, perfectly fine.

    I’m not offended, do not take it personally and get not scandalized.

    And to repeat myself, I sincerely believe that the fight against the Anti-Christ Jews, requires the best possible weapon.

    In my humble opinion, I believe this to be Orthodoxy as a core drive and motor. I know, some disagree and think that we need to ignore the denomination question and I can well and fully understand this practical approach. And there is merit to it from their standpoint.

    But, the way I see this whole thing, is right on par with the following story (1 Kings 3:16-28):

    Two women, have a dispute in front of their king (Solomon), about a baby. Both mothers claim that the baby is theirs.

    The king, spends a lot of time listening to their arguing and in the end, offers a solution: To cut and split the baby in half and give each half.

    Then, the real mother, seeing that her baby is about to be killed, says:

    “Please, My Lord, give her the live child — do not kill him!” However, the liar, in her bitter jealousy, exclaimed, “It shall be neither mine nor yours—divide it!”

    Solomon instantly gave the live baby to the real mother, realizing that the true mother’s instincts were to protect her child, while the liar revealed that she did not truly love the child.

    The moral of the story, in regards to Christian denominations?

    Well, if you value it enough, you will never let it die.

    And this is what I feel and think about, when people say stuff like: ” It does not matter what type of Christian you are, it only matters that we fight this particular fight against Zionists”.

    Well, to me personally, it is not this way. I will hold on to the Truth and complete Truth and will not give it up, to gain some apparent victory.

    Victory comes in conjunction with being true, in spirit, belief and practice. The more complete these are, the better the victory.

    Again, please don’t take this personally. It is what I think and believe. I hope thought crimes are not convicted here on this forum…

    All of the above does not mean that other things and actions are not valuable, they obviously are.

    It does not mean, that my otherwise fellow Catholics and Protestant friends (FYI, I have personal friends and first order family who are non Orthodox Christians) here do not mean well.

    I also know perfectly well, that many, love Jesus Christ, from their personal experience with Him, regardless of denomination.

    I know there are many Catholics, Protestants who love Him.

    But, that’s usually not my point. My point, and again in my personal opinion, is to convey to whoever is open to hear what I have to say, that there is more to this equation and it is largely unknown in the West. It is Orthodoxy.

    I am not aiming to convert anyone. And I also know that I cannot accomplish this anyway.

    That’s between each of us and God.

    Thus, when I see comments that could use some augmentation and/or contradiction, in this particular context, I post. It is not personal, nor do I hate any of you.

    The otherwise questionable Noam Chomsky said:

    “If we don’t believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don’t believe in it at all.”

    Stav

  174. charlie November 1, 2010 @ 4:15 pm

    Kathjuliane.

    I was talking about the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Christ at the Consecration, as you yourself noted;-

    “…daily prayer for Christ’s blessing (not the same as the Consecration of the Eucharistic Gifts and other Sacraments by ordained priests and bishops at Liturgy) on meals while making the sign of the Cross over it:”

    This diversion, edifying as it is, it seems to me obfuscates the understanding I was trying to impart on a vital issue. The central issue of the Catholic faith.

    And that understanding is elaborated further in the reference you gave, which you will have noticed was in complete harmony with what I said.

  175. Disgusted White Christian November 1, 2010 @ 4:19 pm

    “charlie November 1, 2010 @ 2:47 pm

    “A visit to Holocaust Museums is to pay homage to Jewry.”” - Dafydd

    What poppycock. You were doing well up till then.”-Charlie

    Actually that is CORRECT Charlie, that is what the Jew is actually doing.

    Bro Nate had a guy on about a year ago, on this subject of “Holocaustianity” this new religion the Zionist Jew pays homage to, and they force the Christian west to do it also!

    You can deface any religion on earth, that is fine, if you don’t show the utmost respect, and honor, to their “Holy Holocaust” or even question it, YOU WILL FIND YOURSELF IN JAIL REAL FAST!

    At least in Europe, Canada, and Australia you will be jailed, for what they call, “Holocaust Denial.”

    In fact, it is retroactive: they can go back in time, to public statements you made in the past, and jail you now for it.

    Foxman and the ADL are pushing for it here in the USA.

    In fact Charlie, I have been on sites where one poster admits he is Jewish, and he will warn another poster with things like, “you know, they are jailing people in other countries for statements like that, which you just made.”

    Sounds like the old Salem witch hunts, doesn’t it?

    Well, now that the west allows “POLITICAL CORRECTNESS” to run it, this is all our futures?

    DWC

  176. Arjan November 1, 2010 @ 4:21 pm

    I think we should show each other which religion is more anti Zionist as it relates to the secret intentions of the Jews to keep us from following Jesus Christ our Saviour.

    As far as using our religion to overthrow the present power structure, I think that is not what being a Christian is about. Jesus did not do that either, but he appealed to peoples’ conscience, to make a decision for themselves to quit sinning.

  177. Disgusted White Christian November 1, 2010 @ 4:35 pm

    Stav, I don’t take any offense, I have heard that “demonic stuff” on Mary, and “Stigmata” from many different faiths, all my life.

    John Hagee casually tries to come on TV and say the same things. If you want to be compared to him.

    My problem with people is they act like every Catholic has done evil?

    Look at Mother Teresa, or Katherine Drexel:
    http://pabook.libraries.psu.edu/palitmap/bios/Drexel__St_Katharine.html

    Can you honestly say Stav, if you received (200 million) whats equal to almost 1/2 a billion today, you would DONATE all of it to the poor, as she did? As she was one of the heirs to the Drexel fortune.

    You and I both know you wouldn’t do it?

    But that was her strong faith in Mary and Jesus, she DIDN’T QUOTE A LOT OF NICE PASSAGES LIKE YOU DO, BUT SHE ACTUALLY SHOWED HER FAITH IN LIFE, NOT TALK?
    http://www.bookrags.com/biography/katherine-drexel/

    Like Jesus said to the Pharisees, “you are all white and clean on the outside, like a mausoleum, and all dried up bones and no life on the inside, hypocrites all.”

    What he was saying Stav, they could “TALK” a good game, but in reality their word are meaningless without action.

    DWC

  178. charlie November 1, 2010 @ 4:53 pm

    DWC,

    I am well aware of Holocaustianity.

    But to make a blanket statement that ANYONE WHO VISITS A HOLOCAUST MUSEUM must be doing it with the intenton of paying homage to Jewry, is ridiculous, and not just for the reason I gave above, which if you read thoughtfully you would savvy, but how does Daffyd or you for that matter, know the motives of others for visiting a museum, …That was the other issue.

    As far as holocaust denial. You left out USA. Ernst Rundel was was arrested in the USA.

    Americans think there is no where to go in the world because everywhere is the same or worse.

    I could be suffering from a similar delusion about Australia, but all I know is that post 911 there was a flood of USA refugees into Australia escaping your police state.

    Why not take a holiday out here and judge for yourself.

    With regards the above here is what one expat from the USA in Sydney had to say.

    http://www.225batonrouge.com/news/2010/aug/01/aimee-elizabeth-landry-skinner/

  179. KathJuliane November 1, 2010 @ 5:12 pm

    Dear Charlie,

    You made this odd point about both species:

    “Where does it say that Jesus says in the gospel that communion under both species is for all of us. Were “all of us” in the upper room?”

    And I responded with documents from Catholic sources that show species of both kinds of the Body and Blood were given together in common public Communion to all of the faithful from the very beginning, and not just reserved for the clergy.

    In short, in the 12th century, the Roman Catholic Church radically changed what had been divinely instituted by Christ and the Apostles as the liturgical practice from the very beginning.

    Happy am I that it appears you agree that it was the West that changed from the ancient orthopraxis, and not the East.

    Just stating facts, but then maybe that’s being “aggressive.”

    The EOC has never deviated from the 2,000 year old Tradition. And for information, the Eastern Catholic and the Oriental churches still give Holy Communion with both species to their faithful to this day.

  180. charlie November 1, 2010 @ 5:20 pm

    Actually Stav,

    If you meditate on them, Chomsky’s words are nonsense.

    What they mean in effect is that we must allow the Zionist beast to educate and brainwash us.

    Nothing good can come out of the mouth of a Zionist gatekeeper.

  181. Disgusted White Christian November 1, 2010 @ 5:29 pm

    Charlie,

    I love Australia, it is probably the most beautiful country on earth. My sister has been there several times, Melbourne and Bells Beach. She was in New Zealand too, she wants to live in NZ.

    My job here pays me too much money. I would retire to my ancestral homeland of Ireland, some day, except it is too damp and rainy there, I would go nuts.

    One day, I will visit your beautiful land down under. You are right about Ernst Rundel, I forgot about him. Didn’t Australia just try some other “so called criminal” for telling the truth about the Holohoax, recently???

    Just like this farce with chasing down all these old NAZI prison guards, that are like 85, and half dead already.

    The Schroeder Banking house (under Rothschild) financed the Nazi Party, I don’t see World Jewry demanding any of them to be hunted like dogs?

    DWC

  182. charlie November 1, 2010 @ 5:32 pm

    Kathjulianne,

    “In short…” doesn’t cut it.

    There is no argument for what follows. Simply your assumption based on your Eastern Orthodox brainwashing.

    Rather the reference you gave, and not just your tiny quote from it argues strongly, rationally and without bias from scripture for the Catholic position, my position.

    This position is not that communion under both species is of itself wrong. This is never claimed.

    But that from scripture and practise communion under one species alone is necessary and sufficient.

    Look at the Orthodox position where you maintain communion under both species.

    The kneeling which was required to receive Our Lord which was only abolished by Vatican II has been abandoned by your church for centuries.

    This is a direct result of the abuse wrought in practise from the distribution of Communion under both species, warned about in the catholic apologetics.

    I need go no further than that.

  183. Disgusted White Christian November 1, 2010 @ 5:36 pm

    By the way Charlie,

    There is this kid from “Australia has got Talent” he sings opera, about 16, I think, maybe Italian heritage?

    My sister sent me the link, he did a version of “Ava Maria” (my dad’s favorite song) could bring tears to your eyes.

    The kid has a voice like an angel.

    The name slips my mind now?

    DWC

  184. charlie November 1, 2010 @ 6:53 pm

    That was “The Prayer” sung by Anthony Callea a couple of years ago. The first judge was also an expat from the USA and the second, from the UK. The third was homegrown.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Va66Cciwc

    Also sung by this girl

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AZA_yY6S0k&feature=related
    (third judge ex-pat Irish)

    Ave Maria was sung by this American angel.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiM9QVdJyVQ&feature=related

  185. Glory B. November 1, 2010 @ 7:00 pm

    Moshe, you wrote:

    “STILL a “Jew” I see?

    – (And also the Muslims, who are as bad as the Jews because they also reject Christ as Messiah, but for the moment they are fighting the Jews, which is more than the Zio-Christians are doing.) –

    “Just as bad”…..?

    You are comparing Muslims to Jews?

    You have NOT converted sincerely to Christ. You are STILL calling yourself a Jew. There is no such thing as a Christian Jew.

    Try calling yourself a “Jew” in an Orthodox Church while claiming to be a Christian and see what happens to you.”

    ——————————————–

    Moshe, at first I was tempted to ignore your post as it seemed too ridiculous to reply to.

    But then I realized that in calling me a Jew (which is patently false; as I have said, I left Judaism because I came to understand what an evil belief system it is), you were not only insulting me, but also Brother Nathanael as well.

    Perhaps you should re-read the message that Brother Nathanael precedes his forum with. Here it is, in case you’ve forgotten it:

    My Name Is Brother Nathanael Kapner.
    I Am A “Street Evangelist.”

    I Grew Up As A Jew.
    I Am Now An Orthodox Christian.

    I Wish To Warn How Zionist Jews
    Are Destroying Christianity Throughout The World

    Now, what has this got to do with what I wrote, and the subject of this thread, which is: “American Jewry’s Push For Massive Immigration”?

    I wrote that Muslims are as bad as Jews, and they are. Here’s why: Both are against Christ, and do not believe that Jesus was the promised Messiah and the Son of God.

    Jews kill Christians and Muslims — the Palestinians — and Muslims kill Christians. Perhaps you heard about the massacre of Catholics by Muslims in Baghdad — Catholics who were in church at Mass, praising Jesus, the Son of God.

    This is reminiscent of the massacre at Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem on Oct. 8, 1990, when Zionist Jews murdered 23 Palestinians and wounded 850 who were worshiping inside the mosque, one of the holiest places in Islam.

    So this is why I lump Jews and Moslems together: both reject Jesus, and both have no regard for human life, in contrast to Christians.

    Jews want to extinguish Christianity and impose their New World Order. Moslems want to do the same, except they would force us to follow Islamic Sharia law, where they would cut off your hands for taking some bread for your hungry children.

    Now earlier I mentioned Bro. Nathanael, and said you implied that he is also a “Jew” and not a Christian. Here’s why: Bro. Nathanael also analyzed Muslims and concluded they are up to no good.

    He said this earlier on this thread. Here’s what he said (and this is an exact quote):

    “I do not FALL INTO ANY ONES’s hands. I do not think any one understands the Jews devilish multifarious wicked agenda which is multi faced in its devilish way than Brother Nathanael Kapner who grew up in an upper middle class synagogue run by Bnai Brith.

    “I have concerns about Islam (NOT JEWRY”s GAME) for MY OWN REASONS which is partly outlined in this MAJOR article.

    “I am firstly not against anything BUT I am FOR CHRIST and His Holy Church. Period.

    “And all ideologies or “religions” that weaken Christ in Culture I am therefore against.

    “You say that Muslims “believe” in Jesus Christ. If they did, then why don’t they become Christians?

    “I will tell you why. Because Islam DENIES the DIVINITY OF CHRIST - that He is of one essence with the Father, True God of True God Who was incarnate of the Virgin Mary and Became man for OUR salvation. That’s why.

    “Islam falsely believes that Christ was no more than a prophet and that a greater prophet appeared with a higher truth 600 years later in the person of Muhammed.

    “This is BLASPHEMY! Period. For St Paul instructed with DIVINE AUTHORITY that “if any man preach another Gospel than that which was delivered then let that man be anathema.”

    “Some will argue that Islam is the only organized group that is fighting Zionism. That may be well and good.

    “But I fight Zionism for the HONOUR of Christ, NOT for the vindication of Muslims - although Christ’s Justice demands redress for the crimes committed against the Palestinian people and I have been fighting for this JUSTICE for three years running since the inception of this site.

    “Heshem Talliwi once had me on his radio show 3 years ago. When I stated that the Holy Orthodox Church possesses the Only Truth he got all bent out of shape and started yelling. He never asked me back on his show.

    “I had a talk with Reverend Ted Pike yesterday as we talk regularly and our close friends. He reminded me yesterday that Islam has been just as big of a promoter of the Hate Crime Laws and Hate Speech Laws as the Jews.

    “America’s inner nature belongs to Christendom NOT Islam.

    “In order for America to survive, (and Europe as well of course), its essential character derived from European Christendom which has Orthodox roots MUST BE PRESERVED.

    “The influx of Muslims into America with their mosques and militant religious mission has a dis-integrating affect on America’s true inner essence.

    “Thilo Sarazzin of Germany said much the same thing about his own country…and he has garnered MUCH applause and acclaim for having the GUTS to say it. His book, “Deutschland Schafft Sich Ab” - “Germany Does Away With Itself” is a BEST SELLER in Germany and for good reason.

    “For the influx of Muslims and their plethora of mosques is destroying German historic culture WHICH BELONGS to Christendom!

    “I am not afraid to say for my own country!

    “Islam will NOT save the world. Christendom is the only hope for our world. And a re-emergence of Christian Imperium as begun by St Constantine the Great of Byzantium in the 4th Century is the world’s ONLY hope.

    “The White European Culture people are the bearers of this hope.”

    So Moshe, I think you owe Bro. Nathanael an apology for implying that he is a Jew because he wrote that “The influx of Muslims into America with their mosques and militant religious mission has a dis-integrating affect on America’s true inner essence.”

    Muslims do not accept Jesus Christ as the True Messiah, and neither do the Jews. So to my mind, one is as bad as the other.

    Incidentally, I am not a Jew and I could feel insulted, Moshe, that you have said that I am “still a Jew.” But I don’t, because you are just an ignorant person whose “opinions” count for nothing.

  186. Michael Kelley November 1, 2010 @ 7:18 pm

    Dear Br, Nathanael,

    You wrote: “Only a renewed authoritarian ruling class can mend the damage and glue America into a cohesive unit. Indeed, an autocratic Gentile élite is at the doors…”

    I think that this statement is a significant one indeed, and that it demonstrates some capacity of foreknowledge on your part about the coming reactionary coup.

    I’m disgusted by your advocacy of authoritarianism. I’m sure that you are aware of that the biblical beast of Revelations is a Tsar and the false prophet is a Patriarch. The prophecies of the Russian saints warn us, but do you heed them?

    Or, as J.T.A. says, are you blinded by the belief that secular politics is a path to general salvation?

  187. Arjan November 1, 2010 @ 7:25 pm

    I thought Moshe was a mole. You cause dissention, Moshe!

    Naom Chomski is a sick Jew. Don’t quote him, because he does not follow our Lord.

  188. Brother Nathanael November 1, 2010 @ 7:26 pm

    Dear Michael - You are reading too much into my statement and wish to make an “argument” out of a forced interpretation of what I stated.

    As regards the beast being a “Tsar” and the false prophet a “Patriarch” - THIS is NOT prophecied by any Russian saints at all.

    These are pseudo-saints whom you choose to give assent to.

    You must come to your senses dear Michael for I wish to be at peace with you.

    Please stop your argumentative spirit against me which will only tie you up in knots.

    Salvation is only to be found in the embrace of Jesus Christ through baptism as taught by the Holy Saints of the Orthodox Christian Church.

    I never stated once that secular politics is a way to salvation. Are you trying to pick a fight with me? It won’t work dear Michael.

    For the sake of your family let us be at peace with one another dear Michael.

    Peace, +Brother Nathanael

  189. Kurt November 1, 2010 @ 8:24 pm

    After reading the posts of the last two days I was correct in my assertion in an earlier post that the Body of Christ is going to continue to tear at itself with one Christian group insisting it has the truth and another saying it has.

    We all agree Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus but again we can’t agree upon who is the church.

    The church has been tearing at itself since its first Councils and what has been the result of all the numerous Councils, statements of faith, creeds, and so on?

    What has been settled once and for all?

    We have the Orthodox Church, the Catholic Church, the Protestant Reformation Churches, and the various Christian sects and cults all claiming to have apostolic authority: some even claim to be the only “true apostolic church” of Jesus Christ.

    I have no intention of going into an exegesis over this subject because anyone who has studied early Church history, the medieval Church, and the Reformation knows what I am saying is true.

    Sadly, I am of the unshakeable opinion that we as the corporate body of Christ will NEVER overcome the ‘enemy’ because we’re too busy trying to texturally and historically prove who has/is the Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus and has the authority to offer the sacraments and so forth.

    We are a divided body of believers — this is an undisputable historical fact — and Satan is laughing at us. The Baptists preach against the Catholics: The Catholics rail against the Protestants: The Orthodox rejects the Supremacy of the Papscy: the Protestants recognize Sola scriptura and reject Church tradition and so forth.

    No wonder the Zionists are succeeding in their quest for world domination and the destruction of Christianity.

    They don’t have to divide and conquer because we (Christians) do it for them.

  190. Halina November 1, 2010 @ 9:35 pm

    Another great posting by Kurt.

    Congratulations!

    I hope that people will take it to heart unless…..’some’ are just set to divide us, which certainly works for the Zionists.

    Take time and reflect…

    Should we give them the satisfaction?

    Please get along and respect each other and their Christian beliefs.

  191. Hoff November 1, 2010 @ 9:55 pm

    Mao threw them out faster than Stalin, because he had hindsight, on what these international parasites will do! -DWC-
    ===

    Hoff at DWC:

    What date did Mao throw out the Jews? That is another Jew-expell. What year and what month?

  192. Hoff November 1, 2010 @ 11:01 pm

    Mao threw them out faster than Stalin … -DWC-
    ===

    Stalin did NOT throw out the Jews.

    What really happened in the late 40s was that the world was catching up and getting that Soviet was totally run by the Jews. What the Jews did next was a False Flag Operation.

    ln order to HIDE that the Soviet was a totally Jew-run state, the Jews started to spin that Stalin was an innate Jew-hater.

    Stalin was a retarded Jew-whore. Just the same as Bush Jr and Obama NoBody are retarded Jew-whores. Napoleon was a retarded Jew-whore.

    Did you know that Napoleon was a retarded Jew-whore?

    Most people don’t have a clue. Why don’t they have a clue? Because the Jews are pulling a False Flag Operation - again.

    Stalin was a Jew-run NoBody. The Jew-run Soviet was the second country in the entire world to recognise “Israel”. The Jew-run Soviet gave the Jews every weapon the Jews wanted in 1947-48.

    Takeaway the Soviet-Jews and the Jew-mafia boss Ben-Gurion could never ever had proclaimed the Jew run mafia and Jew terrorist entity “IsrealHELL” in 48.

    Stalin did NOT throw out the Jews. lt was the Jews who threw Stalin in the garbage bin. The Jews ALWAYS do that to their Useful ldiots. Suck up all you can to the Jews, and when you’re of no use to the Jews the Jews just dispose you.

    FDR ist the biggest Jew-whore in history of man. Nobody gets elected puppident of United Retards of America four times unless they are a total Jew-whore.

    Give the Jews five minutes and the Jews will turn FDR into the next Hitler. Next the Jews will turn the concentration-camps in America during Jew War Two, ww2, into a devious plan to “exterminate”six million Jews” in America.

    By the way, did you know that the WHITE American people gassed six million Jews to death? You don’t know this?

    Well, lf l own all the “media” and tell you 24-7 that the Americans did gas six millon Jews to death, then do you know what you will “know” when l told you this six million times in your whole life? - lt’s true!

  193. Stav November 2, 2010 @ 2:05 am

    Hey Charlie,

    You say:

    “If you meditate on them, Chomsky’s words are nonsense.

    What they mean in effect is that we must allow the Zionist beast to educate and brainwash us.”

    Yes, I see your point. But, what is the alternative? Should we become like them and stop free speech?

    I think that generally speaking, we must follow God’s example.

    He let’s us be free. He let’s us say and do whatever we like. He has given us complete and utter freedom in this life.

    But, He has foretold us the consequences of not using our freedom correctly.

    I am not one to say that free speech also means that it is good and correct speech. But, it is very dangerous to deny free speech, because the risk of loosing is greater than what is to be gained by it.

    That quote is similar to the other one that floats around which is, that whoever sacrifices freedom with increased security is not worthy of either.

    We must win this “game” with the tools of righteousness, rather than the tools of evil. I don’t think I am wrong, but I think freedom is a catalyst for good, don’t you?

    Anything good that is expressed freely takes on an immense value, and likewise, anything bad expressed freely reveals the evil intent behind it.

    Stav

  194. Stav November 2, 2010 @ 2:34 am

    A couple more thoughts on the issue of freedom:

    Perhaps, there are two kinds of freedoms:

    The one that is ideal and respects each persons opinion. And the one that is promoted as such, but in essence is a fake freedom, one that only gives this impression, especially to the non thinking majority out there.

    Zionists love to promote what they call democracy. The word alone, implies freedom of choice in who is governed. Democracy has good context and as such it is a great tool to distract people from what really matters.

    We have heard the expressions, “will of the people,” “bring democracy to the world” etc. etc.
    These are prime verbal methods of Zionists and the NWO in general, that help them instill the impression that everything else said, we are still living in a free society.

    But, as we all should know, an effective Democracy is based on responsible citizens, who exert an effort to get educated in all matters of commons. But this is not the case. Most people are acting profoundly as cattle, following the herd, following the most popular opinions in their respective groups.

    In addition, most people are not able to discern whether a proposed idea has good merit and intent, or not.

    Take the Zionist inspired message of Obamah, which was “Change” and “Yes you can!”. Without proper morals, ideas and goals, these messages mean nothing. In fact, they could mean disaster.

    Yes you can kill, and yes you can change, but to what end? If you don’t know what you should be doing and why, then what is the point of freedom of expression.

    Thus, I will update my statement, and say that freedom is as good as the context and intentions it is practiced within.

    This brings me to government by authority. It must be well known, that most and greatest achievements of humanity, have always had a leader behind them. Be they academic, technical or political, the fact is that good authority brings forth fantastic results.

    Thus, like freedom, authority by it self is not necessarily good, but if it is driven by good, it can be amazingly productive and give birth to awesome good.

    It is my belief, that a state driven by good authority, is the only way to result in real good. I think that no one would deny that the founding fathers of the USA were not authorities. And, I think that no one would present a valid objection that a true leader can effect much more than any democratic process.

    So, I would say that the thing that Zionists fear the most in this world, is the possibility that a real leader who acts in good authority and Christian values could rise and lead the people.

    And as far as I can see, a huge part of what they do everyday, is exactly to prevent this from happening.

    They have infiltrated and saturated with their own, every type of institution that could potentially give rise to a good and real leader. It is therefore that we see Hollywood, media, politics, banks and industry taken over by them.

    They have usurped all authority and thereby replaced it with evil. That’s why we have all the Zionist problems we do have today.

    One can as well look at the tea parties and all the latest revolts that appear in Europe, including Greece, my country. People are absolutely DESPERATE to have a good leader, to unite behind and bring good. Without this, they will remain confused and unable to make a change for the best.

    Nature is hierarchical and so is Heaven. Even hell is hierarchical. Without this, and authority at various levels, it is impossible to bring forth big, effective action.

    To conclude, because of all the above, I think that eventually, if we are to win this war, we will see authorities rise, who will lead us towards this goal.

    It is all about synchronization and organization. For these to exist, there needs to be a designer of them. And if they finally become reality, which I believe they will, then expect massive change to a better status quo.

    Stav

  195. Dafydd November 2, 2010 @ 3:30 am

    @Charlie

    “But to make a blanket statement that ANYONE WHO VISITS A HOLOCAUST MUSEUM must be doing it with the intention of paying homage to Jewry, is ridiculous, and not just for the reason I gave above, which if you read thoughtfully you would savvy, but how does Daffyd or you for that matter, know the motives of others for visiting a museum, …That was the other issue.”

    The statement I made was not about the intention of those who visit Holocaust museums, but the intention of those behind these museums; so those that do visit these museums and so forth are paying homage to the religion of Holocaustianity, whether they are aware of this or not.

    So therefore my statement was correct, if you had understood the general flow of my post.

    Incidentally, you have completely misspelled my name, seen as you are nitpicking, which we can all do if we seek to argue rather than debate.

  196. George November 2, 2010 @ 4:13 am

    Dear Kalif,

    The “Gospel of Jesus” as understood by Islam is not the books of the New Testament used by Christians.

    I think it is otherwise known as Pseudo-Matthew or the Gospel of Matthias. It is the only text accepted by Islamic scholars because it does not profess the divinity of Jesus Christ.

    This is very different to the official Gospels of Christianity that all record Christ as stating that He is the Son of God. The Syrian “Christian” monastic who greatly assisted the prophet Mohammed with his religion was an Arianist, ie a sect of heresy that denied the divinity of Christ.

    This is also why some books of the Koran are syncretistic towards all monotheistic religion – particularly the first couple of chapters.

    Please don’t take my comment that follows wrongly. I have always viewed Islam as a religion which eliminated paganism in people who resisted the message of Christ.

    However, Islam appears to me as a monotheistic religion that directs people towards the one God, but suppresses all of the revealed mysteries of God and the sacramental life established by Jesus Christ for the salvation of mankind.

    So the value of it is more of case of the lesser evil rather than the greater good. In case I am not clear – it is only through Christ that one can contemplate God.

    Islam simply turns one away from the folly of paganism. It is only a religion of earthly moral justice. Much like the Torah it regulates the behaviour of the flesh. It does not make angels out of humans.

    This is why Christ and His followers consider celibacy as the ultimate, whereas the Islam reinforces the way of married life and procreation.

    The one thing that I have found very common between Christianity and Sunni Islam (not Shia) is the eschatological ends of the world – the restoration of all in Christ, the coming of the Antichrist and then the resurrection of the dead and the Second Judgement. Shia instead appears to have theories that sound much more like Zionist antichrist propaganda.

    Once again, do not take me wrongly. The reason why I consider Islam dangerous towards Christianity, is more because of its similarities to Judaism.

    It is very easy to turn the friendly Islam under the early Caliphate into the repressive murderous Islam under the Sultanate.

    Simply define Christians as polytheists and idol worshippers, and behold all the evidence for the fanaticized ignorant is all there: a Trinitarian multi-God, and the alleged worship of icons and the relics of saints.

    Judaics get past the test, Christians are put to death.

  197. Dafydd November 2, 2010 @ 4:19 am

    “With this, they are basically deifying Jews, and a visit to Holocaust Museums is to pay homage to Jewry.”

    Those visiting of course would not be ware of the intention behind this whole charade to clarify for those who do not get it.

  198. George November 2, 2010 @ 4:39 am

    Dear Moshe,

    I think it is becoming increasingly obviously that your definitions of Christianity is very different to mine. It is probably of waste of time continuing the discussion if it were personal, but for the sake of the readers I respond.

    Do you know who the One Catholic and Apostolic Church is? Do you know its faith?

    The George Bush and other “Christian” murderers of the US, are all pro-Zionist thugs who believe in the recomposition of the state of the deicidal old Israel. This means that they are ANTICHRISTS.

    It is thus that we have masked enemies of Christianity killing Muslims. What are they aiming for?

    I don’t know what’s on their mind, but the results of their actions are wars between Muslims and Christians - the Zionists skim the cream!

    But back to your more basic ignorance of the One Catholic and Apostolic Church.

    Do you know that most Christians of recent and ancient times confess and believe something summarised in the Nicene Creed? What does this creed say?

    So if you think that most modern day disorientated Christians don’t believe in the Resurrection or anything else that MOST Christians believed in for the last 2000 years, does this mean anything?

    I would also think that your “Christians” are probably only Western – and the worst of them. Perhaps you need to do research as to how many African, Asian, Mediterranean, Middle Eastern and South American Christians believe in the Resurrection of Christ etc. You might be surprised to find out that most are in sync with the Nicene Creed.

    Lastly if you really believe in the words of Christ, then why do you feel the need to supress this faith by containing it only to yourself. Shouldn’t any Muslim have the same luxury as you?

    Does not God have His ways of spreading His message? Did He not say go forth and preach to the people baptising them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit?

    It does not matter how disunified Christians are, Islam will always be Islam, and Christianity will always be Christianity.

  199. Moshe November 2, 2010 @ 5:18 am

    DEAR Disgusted White Christian
    November 1, 2010 @ 2:48 pm

    ——————

    Jewish Faces in Chinese/Red Government

    http://jewishfaces.com/china.html

    Don’t forget their influence in China, Hoff and later, South Africa also?

    Mao threw them out faster than Stalin, because he had hindsight, on what these international parasites will do!

    ————————

    The Jew invented Red China thorugh Roosevelts old war cabinet - Frank Coe, Shlomo Adler and Sidney Rittenberg to name a few. The entire Silvermaster Spy Ring was in on it and TODAY the likes of Kissenger and Rittenberg enjoy unparalleled access to the top echelons of this barbaric tyranny oppressing the Chinese people.

    Here are the main members of the Silvermaster Spy ring - would be good if Brother Nathanael would do a segment on it.

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    Nathan Gregory Silvermaster, Chief Planning Technician, Procurement Division, United States Department of the Treasury; Chief Economist, War Assets Administration; Director of the Labor Division, Farm Security Administration; Board of Economic Warfare; Reconstruction Finance Corporation Department of Commerce

    Helen Silvermaster (wife)

    Schlomer Adler, United States Department of the Treasury

    Norman Chandler Bursler, United States Department of Justice Anti-Trust Division

    Frank Coe, Assistant Director, Division of Monetary Research, Treasury Department; Special Assistant to the United States Ambassador in London; Assistant to the Executive Director, Board of Economic Warfare; Assistant Administrator, Foreign Economic Administration
    Lauchlin Currie, Administrative Assistant to President Roosevelt; Deputy Administrator of Foreign Economic Administration; Special Representative to China

    Bela Gold, Assistant Head of Program Surveys, Bureau of Agricultural Economics, United States Department of Agriculture; Senate Subcommittee on War Mobilization; Office of Economic Programs in Foreign Economic Administration

    Sonia Steinman Gold, Division of Monetary Research U.S. Treasury Department; U.S. House of Representatives Select Committee on Interstate Migration; U.S. Bureau of Employment Security
    Irving Kaplan, Foreign Funds Control and Division of Monetary Research, United States Department of the Treasury Foreign Economic Administration; chief advisor to the Military Government of Germany

    George Silverman, civilian Chief Production Specialist, Material Division, Army Air Force Air Staff, War Department, Pentagon

    William Henry Taylor, Assistant Director of the Middle East Division of Monetary Research, United States Department of Treasury

    William Ullman, delegate to United Nations Charter meeting and Bretton Woods conference; Division of Monetary Research, Department of Treasury; Material and Services Division, Air Corps Headquarters, Pentagon

    Anatole Volkov

    Harry Dexter White, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury; Head of the International Monetary Fund
    http://www.conservapedia.com/Silvermaster_group
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  200. Moshe November 2, 2010 @ 5:21 am

    Dear Arjan,
    November 1, 2010 @ 4:21 pm

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    I think we should show each other which religion is more anti Zionist as it relates to the secret intentions of the Jews to keep us from following Jesus Christ our Saviour.

    As far as using our religion to overthrow the present power structure, I think that is not what being a Christian is about. Jesus did not do that either, but he appealed to peoples’ conscience, to make a decision for themselves to quit sinning.

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    Right on sugar.

  201. Moshe November 2, 2010 @ 6:16 am

    Dear GLORY B,

    Where do I begin?

    I’ll put my replies in capital letters for no other reason than ease of following.

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    Moshe, at first I was tempted to ignore your post as it seemed too ridiculous to reply to.

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    FIRST RULE OF THE JEW -

    ADHOMINEM AND STATE YOU ARE ABOVE SUCH DEBATE AND THEN HOE RIGHT ON IN, REGARDLESS ALL THE WHILE HOLDING YOUR NOSE, AND EXCLAIMING HOW YOU ARE SIMPLY TOO PIOUS AND RIGHTEOUS TO ENTER INTO SUCH A PIG PEN.

    AND THEN LIKE I SAID…THROW YOURSELF RIGHT IN OVER THE FENCE, FACE FIRST INTO THE MUD…

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    But then I realized that in calling me a Jew (which is patently false; as I have said, I left Judaism because I came to understand what an evil belief system it is), you were not only insulting me, but also Brother Nathanael as well.

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    WELL CLEARLY YOU HAVEN’T LEFT IT. YOU ARE DOING WHAT JEWS LOVE TO DO NIGHT AND DAY - BASH ISLAM.

    I SIMPLY CALL IT HOW I SEE IT SHNOKKUMS.

    DID JESUS CALL THE SAMARITANS EVIL? DID JESUS CALL THE ROMANS EVIL? JESUS WAS REJECTED - PERIOD! DID HE CALL THOSE PEOPLE EVIL?

    THE BUDDHISTS REJECT CHRIST! WHY AREN”T YOU CALLING THE BUDDHISTS EVIL?

    THE HINDUS REJECT CHRIST! WHY AREN’T YOU CALLING THE HINDUS EVIL?

    THE HINDUS STILL SACRIFICE BABIES TO THEIR PLETHORA OF GODS IN COUNTRY AREAS AND BURN TO DEATH CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES IN THEIR CARS! COME ON!!!!!!!!

    WHERE IS YOUR RIGHTEOUS DAMNED INDIGNATION YOU DAMNED HYPOCRITE!

    THE GUY NEXT DOOR IS A CONFIRMED ATHIEST WHO BASHES THE CATHOLICS ALL DAY.

    IS HE EVIL? LETS GET HIM! I HOPE NOT - HE’S A GOOD GUY.

    YOU ARE A PHARISEE! ALL CLEAN AND FAIR WITHOUT, BUT WITHIN, FULL OF HATRED, JUDGMENT AND PIOUS RIGHTEOUSNESS.

    WELL HERE - LET ME RUN YOUR NOSE A LITTLE IN THE MUD. YOU ARE THE PHARISEE PRAYING…”THANK YOU GOD FOR NOT MAKING ME A SINNER LIKE THESE OTHERS.”

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    I wrote that Muslims are as bad as Jews, and they are. Here’s why: Both are against Christ, and do not believe that Jesus was the promised Messiah and the Son of God.

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    YOU ARE AT WAR WITH THE WORLD! NO ONE BELIEVES IT!

    THE ANGLICANS ARE PRACTICALLY POLITE COMMUNISTS. IT TOOK A DIVINE MIRACLE TO CONVERT SAINT PAUL.

    JUST WHAT DO YOU WANT OUT OF THESE PEOPLE?

    HOW DARE YOU COMPARE DECENT, POLITE AND COURTEOUS MIDDLE EASTERN MUSLIMS WHO REVERE CHRIST AS A GREAT PROPHET AND HIS MOTHER AS BLESSED WITH FOUL BLASPHEMERS LIKE TALMUDIC SOAKED JEWS OF THE WORLD.

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    Jews kill Christians and Muslims — the Palestinians — and Muslims kill Christians. Perhaps you heard about the massacre of Catholics by Muslims in Baghdad — Catholics who were in church at Mass, praising Jesus, the Son of God.
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    A BUNCH OF IRAQI FREEDOM FIGHTERS WANTED THEIR MOTHERS, SISTERS, BROTHERS, UNCLES AND DAUGHTERS OUT OF IRAQI AND EGYPTIAN JAILS.

    THEY TOOK A CATHOLIC CHURCH TO SIEGE AND THE IDIOT IRAQI SECURITY FORCES BLEW UP THE CHURCH IN A BOTCHED RAID. YOU MAKE MUCH FROM THE MAINSTREAM PRESS - LIKE A TRUE JEW.

    I WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE WITH THEM.

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    This is reminiscent of the massacre at Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem on Oct. 8, 1990, when Zionist Jews murdered 23 Palestinians and wounded 850 who were worshiping inside the mosque, one of the holiest places in Islam.

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    ARE YOU ON DRUGS? GOLDSTEIN WENT TO THAT MOSQUE TO KILL AS MANY AS POSSIBLE.

    THOSE IRAQI’S WENT THERE OUT OF DESPERATION TO GET THEIR RELATIVES OUT OF JEWISH RUN RAPE JAILS.

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    So this is why I lump Jews and Moslems together: both reject Jesus, and both have no regard for human life, in contrast to Christians.

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    :-D DEAR GOD - NOW I AM ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING.

    IT’S LIKE I’M READING AN ADL RELEASE :-D

    EXCUSE ME SWEETIE - THERE ARE OVER 1 MILLION IRAQI MUSLIMS DEAD. ARE YOU SERIOUS? WHO HAS BEEN KILLING THEM? BUDDHISTS? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

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    Jews want to extinguish Christianity and impose their New World Order.

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    YES.

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    Moslems want to do the same.
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    NO, MUSLIMS WANT US TO GO HOME AND STOP KILLING THEM IN VAST NUMBERS AT THE BEHEST OF THE JEW.

    THATS ALL THEY WANT AND THEN THEY WILL GO HOME TO THEIR COUNTRIES OF ORIGIN TO TILL THE SOIL AND BUILD THEIR LIVES IN SAFETY AND SECURITY.

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    Except they would force us to follow Islamic Sharia law, where they would cut off your hands for taking some bread for your hungry children.

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    LIKE I SAID YOU’RE A JEW. YOU JUST LOGGED OFF THE ADL MUSLIM BASHING HANDBOOK SITE.
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    Now earlier I mentioned Bro. Nathanael, and said you implied that he is also a “Jew” and not a Christian. Here’s why: Bro. Nathanael also analyzed Muslims and concluded they are up to no good.

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    WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? TELL ON ME?
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    “America’s inner nature belongs to Christendom NOT Islam.
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    I GUESS IF YOU CAN “FEEL” THE WORRY IN THAT THEN YOU CAN UNDERSTAND HOW IRAQI’S MUST FEEL AS AMERICANS UNDER ORDERS FROM JEWS SLAUGHTER THEM IN THEIR MILLIONS SINCE 1991.

    DOES THE WORD PIOUS HYPOCRITE AND BLIND GUIDE AND WHITED SEPULCHURE MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU WHILE YOU ARE SWALLOWING YOUR CAMEL AND STRAINING AT YOUR GNATS WITH CHOP STICKS?

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    “In order for America to survive, (and Europe as well of course), its essential character derived from European Christendom which has Orthodox roots MUST BE PRESERVED.

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    HEAR! HEAR! AND WE CAN START BY STOPPING INVADING THEIR COUNTRIES AND KILLING THEM. LET ME PROVIDE A MIRROR…

    ““In order for Iraq to survive, (and the Middle East as well of course), its essential character derived from Middle Eastern Islam which has Sunni roots MUST BE PRESERVED.”"

    “The influx of Christians into Iraq with their Churches and militant religious mission has a dis-integrating affect on Iraq’s true inner essence.

    “For the influx of Christians and their plethora of Churches is destroying Iraqi historic culture WHICH BELONGS to Islam!

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    OH BUT YOU HAVEN’T FINISHED YET…
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    “Islam will NOT save the world. Christendom is the only hope for our world. And a re-emergence of Christian Imperium as begun by St Constantine the Great of Byzantium in the 4th Century is the world’s ONLY hope.

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    NO, MUSLIMS AREMED WITH STICKS AND STONES AND RUNNING UP AGAINST TANKS AND HELICOPTER GUNSHIPS HAVE TURNED THE TIDE AGAINST THE JEW.

    NO ONE CARES ABOUT ERNST ZUNDEL OR HOW MANY DIED IN THE HOLOHOAX - THEY CARE ABOUT CHILDREN DYING IN AIR RAIDS ON DEFENSELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN BY JEWS FLYING AMERICAN MADE AND SUPPLIED EQUIPMENT.

    THE MUSLIM HAS DONE IT! WITH SHEER COURAGE AND TENACITY THEY HAVE WITHSTOOD THE STORM.

    WHILE FAT WESTERNERS POO POO THEM WITH JEW PROPAGANDA ON CUTTING OFF HANDS AND HEADS IN ONLY THE MOST EXTREME OF TYRANNIES PUT THERE TO A MAN BY THE JEW RUN UNITED STATES.

    SO PONTIUS PILOT WHY NOT HAVE A GOOD LOOK IN THE MIRROR YOU PIOUS PHARISEE.

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    “The White European Culture people are the bearers of this hope.”
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    NO, WHITE EUROPEAN CULTURE DIED LONG AGO WHEN IT SOLD OUT FOR A BIG SCREEN T.V. AND THE FREE SPORTS CHANNEL.

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    So Moshe, I think you owe Bro. Nathanael an apology for implying that he is a Jew because he wrote that “The influx of Muslims into America with their mosques and militant religious mission has a dis-integrating affect on America’s true inner essence.”

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    SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE ARROGANT JEW - GIVING ORDERS EVEN WHILE HE IS ON HIS KNEES.

    I OWE YOU NOTHING BUT MY DEEPEST AND MOST HEARTFELT CONTEMPT AND IRE FROM THE DEEPEST RECESSES OF MY ETHNIC IRISH CATHOLIC HEART YOU SPECIOUS GNAT STRAINING FOOL.

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    Muslims do not accept Jesus Christ as the True Messiah, and neither do the Jews. So to my mind, one is as bad as the other.

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    WHY DON’T YOU TRY AND CONVERT THEM WITH A GOOD FLOGGING TILL THE LOVE OF CHRIST FILLS THEIR HEART?

    IF THAT DOESN’T WORK, INVADE AND DROP DEPLETED URANIUM AND WHITE PHOSPHORUS ON THEM - THAT SHOULD GET THE LOVE OF CHRIST BURNING BOTH WITHIN AND WITHOUT.

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    Incidentally, I am not a Jew and I could feel insulted, Moshe, that you have said that I am “still a Jew.” But I don’t, because you are just an ignorant person whose “opinions” count for nothing.
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    INCIDENTALLY I COULDN’T GIVE A FIDDLY DEE WHETHER I INSULT YOU OR NOT.

    MY GOAL IS TO POINT OUT THAT YOU HAVE NOT SHAKEN OFF THE DEMONIC ENTITY THAT IS CLAWING IT’S WAY INTO YOUR BACK.

    YOU FEEL IT’S GRIP INTO THE VOID OF COMPLETE LONLINESS AND EXISTENTIAL ANGST AND RUN TO THE PHARISAIC WORLD VIEW OF DOGMA AND THE ART OF STRAINING AT FLEEING GNATS TO GIVE THE GROUND ON WHICH YOU STAND A MORE SHORE FOOTING.

    I TOO AM JUST LIKE YOU WITH ONE GIGANTIC GAPING DIFFERENCE - MY DEMON IS WELL KNOWN TO ME.

    WE HAVE LUNCH. GO FOR WALKS AND I OCCASIONALLY BEAT HIM WITH MUCH REPENTANT TEARS FOR JUST HOW LOWLY I AM IN THE EYES OF GOD. HOW FAR I FALL SHORT, HOW PRONE TO SIN IN THE WINK OF AN EYE I AM - HOW QUICK TO JUDGMENT.

    If you give me your address I will send you a small hand mirror with which to keep an eye on your black demonic dog so he does not completely over come you just at the decisive moment when you should be uttering…”Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Have Mercy on me a sinner.”

    God loves a repentant heart and a sincere man who is willing to give his all for what he believes in - therefore God loves even the sincere Islamic Faithful. I gather you have given little except some keyboard time and a pious speech to the choir.

    Repent - pray for clarity and Truth and He will give it. Defend your Faith by more than mere opinion - give up something for the fight - your pious righteousness can be a start.

  202. Moshe November 2, 2010 @ 6:37 am

    Dearest GLORY B,

    As I pulled out my mobile broadband internet connection the last words on my post came to bear…

    “”Repent - pray for clarity and Truth and He will give it. Defend your Faith by more than mere opinion - give up something for the fight - your pious righteousness can be a start.”"

    SO I will do as Jesus commands and not judge. I am a silly little trouble making ethnic Irish Australian spoiling for a fight because he is not allowed out after dark without his master’s express permission under threat of being sent to his room.

    This makes him pious and judgmental because he wants to do as Brother Nathanael does - but cannot.

    Peace to all, sincerely.

    Regards,

    Moshe Binconnellstien

  203. Moshe November 2, 2010 @ 6:42 am

    I’d go and get drunk on Guinness but I spent all the last of my money on a printer cartridge.

    Such are the sacrifices for Truth.

  204. jgalindes November 2, 2010 @ 7:17 am

    I can see how deeply “worried” are most people here regarding the much advertized “Muslim threat” notwithstanding the obvious fact that all this nonsense plays at the hands of the filthy demonic Jewry.

    Aren’t you aware of the mortal peril we are all in?

    Adhering to this Muslim bashing is perfect to Jewry!

    Moshe I agree with you man.

    Behold! This site can be contaminated with Jewish rubbish if people goes on bashing Muslims, Roman Catholics, Blacks, Latinos….in sum not whatever is called:

    “White Christian America.”

    I’m sincerely profuondly disappointed.

  205. Michael Kelley November 2, 2010 @ 8:16 am

    Dear Brother Nathanael,

    Thanks for the loving response to my concerns. Indeed, I am very disturbed by a recent turn of events in which you are not directly involved, but in which your participation could have an effect:

    Three weeks ago, members of the Maine Militia returned from the big machine gun shoot at Knob Creek, Kentucky, with alarming news.

    A man representing himself as the “interim president of the United States,” called “Tim Turner” apparently had invited militia attendees to a separate private meeting in an attempt to secure their co-operation during the coming attempted coup!

    The attitude amongst the crowd was one of general skepticism, but this man has a significant following already.

    Among the claims he made, he stated that he has a coterie of US generals supporting him and that 3 out of 5 news agencies do so as well. He also claimed that his government will somehow get trillions of dollars in hard assets released to it when it takes over.

    This man is promulgating treason, but is using the language of patriotism and Christianity. And those who sign on to his “Restore America Plan” are in effect signing a one-way ticket to Leavenworth. I don’t know which is more disturbing: that he is lying; or that he is telling the truth.

    One thing I do know is that there is no coverage of this significant development on Rense, or anywhere else, although I have reported it to Paul Drockton personally and in detail.

    Somehow, a man with an organization in all 50 States who claims that his new military-backed government is taking over during the collapse of the dollar is not news, but E.T, Bigfoot and gay Satanism is.

    When you suggested that Gen. Petraeus might be the next president of the US, were your demonstrating more of this foreknowledge of what is really in the works, as we sit here typing? Perhaps there is some secret law that restrains journalists from reporting on ongoing sting operations and the like?

    I understand that democracy results in tyranny, but I am not keen to return to autocracy either. I support America’s original limited representative republic, which is what Tim Turner claims to be all about, but he is a real Obama-type Neural Linguistic Programmer and a former FEMA officer as well, who is a Judas goat piously pedaling patriot platitudes!

    But owing to your acting so loving towards me, I admit that I am moved and don’t know whether you are actually capable of embracing Christian Communism once its mask is off, or not. I think it’s one of those things that seems to make sense at first, but then the contradictions arise once you’re in.

    So, perhaps this is a test of goodwill. To me, I am under the burden of knowing what I know - like the one who sees another’s house burning at one end while he sleeps in the other.

    The people have to be warned that there is threatened to be a coup attempt during the very likely currency collapse if he is not stopped by the FBI, and that he is a baz-dazzler with all the right words flowing like honey from his mouth. And that further, it is possibly an attempt to bring about a round-up of patriots and guns, another cult needing suppression to be the cause and excuse.

    Hopefully, the cause of our Savior will be served ultimately, helping Christians discern the false spirit in this movement called The Restore America Plan (TRAP). Because this movement has the potential to unleash persecution of ALL Christians as “too extreme”, as well as ignite violence between Christians and Muslims.

    It would, in one blow, de-legitimize the movement toward the peaceful establishment by law, of the common Citizen’s Sovereign rights which appear in the founding documents but are not enforced.

    Even its success would prevent using lawful remedy in the courts against its own tyranny. It reeks of a sleazy Central American fruit-company backed right wing coup. It’s Nazi.

    Your friend in Christ.

    TRAP agitprop:
    http://restoredusa.blogspot.com/
    http://www.panamalaw.org/tim_turner_is_now_the_interim_president_of_new_republic_of_united_states.html
    http://www.guardiansofthefreerepublics.com/introduction.html

    NESARA (remember all my rants):
    http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2010/04/goldman-sachs-and-wanta-reagan.html

    Whistle blowers:
    http://ecofriendlyconsult.com/the-united-states-corporation-exposed/#more-3586
    http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/2010/02/the-restore-america-plan-trap.html
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=183642
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=179301

  206. Kalif November 2, 2010 @ 11:51 am

    Thanks George I can do with information like that.

    By the way there is some heated discussion here.

    What amazes me is to see the gulf of differences between the Christian sects themselves, let alone between Christianity and Islam.

    But within the context of this thread I fail to understand why if immigrants of all religions and religious cults, Satanic as well as Atheists deserve no alarm bells ringing when they immigrate to America but once Muslims do then ….mayhem.

    By the way Moshe is right on the dollar when he states:

    WHY DON’T YOU TRY AND CONVERT THEM WITH A GOOD FLOGGING TILL THE LOVE OF CHRIST FILLS THEIR HEART? IF THAT DOESN’T WORK, INVADE AND DROP DEPLETED URANIUM AND WHITE PHOSPHORUS ON THEM - THAT SHOULD GET THE LOVE OF CHRIST BURNING BOTH WITHIN AND WITHOUT.

    All the Muslims have known from the Christian West is interference in heir affairs ceaselessly, not to speak of endless wars. And they foot the bill for wars fought against them with their oil and natural resources.

    But this time the Western people will have to foot the bill for their bloody unjust wars. Lets see, 200 trillion dollars if we could pay back 1 trillion dollars per year, without interest that is, it will take us 200 years to pay.

    We will also know soon what number comes next after a trillion for those arithmetically inclined.

  207. Brother Nathanael November 2, 2010 @ 1:21 pm

    Dear Michael -

    Again, you are off on a wierd tangent - importing your own thoughts into mine.

    I NEVER suggested that Patreaus would be the next president. I ONLY REPORTED what OTHERS are suggesting.

    I NEVER discussed your wierd concept: “Christian Communism.” Please Michael, you must not MISQUOTE ME or MIS-INTERPRET me.

    I want to be a “peacemaker” for the sake of our past friendship and the peace of your family life.

    This is what Christ is directing to do as I am very solicitous of your domestic harmony and peace.

    Let us end this thread and I look forward to your continued posts in the tradition of your past posts which were excellent commentaries BUT let’s drop this quarrel that you have against me and you WILL feel better for it.

    +Brother Nathanael

  208. charlie November 2, 2010 @ 1:25 pm

    The intention of those behind these museums; so those that do visit these museums and so forth are paying homage to the religion of Holocaustianity, whether they are aware of this or not.

    Dafydd

    No they are not. That may be their intentions but the intentions of evil doers in no way necessarily governs the actions of others. you call that nit picking. I call it salvation.

    I for example went there with an open mind. Not to worship at the feet of holocaustianity.

    When I was there I realized I was witness to a hoax.

    I realized also that people from the moment they entered were being subjected to a sophisticated attempt at psychological control through the voice over.

    The Arab cab driver who took me there was well aware of all of the above which I only now realize from his attitude in having to take me there.

  209. hvt November 2, 2010 @ 1:44 pm

    We have become warring factions…
    Vehicles in desperate need of traction…
    Guided by past infractions…
    We have yielded to the distractions…
    That have stripped us of our attractions…
    We need a new course of action!

    Let the cease-fire begin with the dawning of each new day.
    Weighing carefully, in the balance, every word spoken along life’s way.
    Rekindle the spark of civility with the fantail of humility…
    Thus allowing the able Potter to freely fashion the clay.

    Let the cease-fire be an everlasting alter erected to the only One
    Who can lead imperfect vessels to the perfect Risen Son.
    Grasp the lifeline of Truth in humble harmony…
    Choose not to let the enemy ever be…
    Glorified in the race that we are called to run!

  210. charlie November 2, 2010 @ 2:13 pm

    Stav,

    I had no business calling you …..that word.

    I am sincerely humiliated by the phrase.

    I can see you are a good person.

  211. Dafydd November 2, 2010 @ 2:30 pm

    @Charlie,

    You saw through the Hoax, but I am afraid to say that the vast majority go to these museums fully expecting their belief system to be reinforced (which it is in most cases), because the sheeple do not have questioning minds.

    So the general public are paying homage to Jewry and their mythical suffering, when visiting these so called museums due to their conditioning; and are therefore worshiping at the alter of Holocaustianity.

    This is the intent (and they are succeeding), that is why they are building more of them, and introducing this into the curriculum and so forth, more and more.

    Incidentally, where is your irrefutable proof that Adolf Hitler was related to the Rothschild’s? This is nothing but conjecture.

  212. charlie November 2, 2010 @ 2:30 pm

    ….I sincerely apologize.

    to Stav

  213. charlie November 2, 2010 @ 3:16 pm

    Dafydd

    Again you are judging others and their relationship with God. Only God has the power to do that.

    If what you say is the case, so be it. but you cannot make blanket statements about anyone.

    By doing so you are condemning them and they don’t need that and you have no right to do it. Everyone has the impulse of the spirit of god’s grace available to them. That’s all I’m going to say on the subject.

    With regards Hitler.

    The particular Rothschild who was suspected in the paternity of his progenitor had an infamous reputation as man who couldn’t keep his hands off women. This was an irrefuteable local understanding.

    Hitler’s mother or grandmother, I forget which, lived under the same roof as, his maidservant at a time when there were no other women or men around. She was subject to him as was the custom in those days with little redress or legal constraint that anyone could do about it, and left pregnant.

  214. Stav November 2, 2010 @ 5:02 pm

    Hey Charlie,

    No problem! I do too apologize if I upset you.

    Stav

  215. Reme November 2, 2010 @ 6:07 pm

    Brother Nathanael,

    Have you read The Secret Teachings of All Ages by Manly P. Hall?

    I think it was written in 1928.

    And yes I consider myself a Muslim even though my ancestors came to the US starting with my mom’s Great Uncle in 1911 from Syria, so I barely know much Arabic since my mom worked alot and I grew up in a Christian community and went to Sunday school where Arabic wasn’t taught!

    Anyway I don’t recall my last post about Feingold but I mean no disrespect.

    I want you to understand that 99% of Muslims don’t want to bother with Christianity because it’s against what we believe in so please stop the anti-Islamic talk.

    I am interested in how you were as a child and teen and how your family reacted to your conversion.

    In Studies in a Mosque, Stanley Lane-Poole writes:

    “For nearly eight centuries under her Mohammedan rulers Spain set to all Europe a shining example of a civilized and enlightened state. (…) Art, literature and science prospered as they then prospered nowhere else in Europe.

    Students flocked from France and Germany and England to drink from the fountains of learning which flowed only in the cities of the Moors. The surgeons and doctors of Andalusia were in the van of science; women were encouraged to devote themselves to serious study, and a lady doctor was not unknown among the people of Cordova.

    Mathematics, astronomy and botany, history, philosophy and jurisprudence, were to he mastered in Spain and in Spain alone.”

    The Library of Original Sources thus sums up the effects of Islam:

    “The results of Mohammedism have been greatly underestimated. In the century after Mohammed’s death it wrested Asia Minor, Africa, and Spain from Christianity, more than half of the civilized world, and established a civilization, the highest in the world during the Dark Ages.

    It brought the Arabian race to their highest development, raised the position of women in the East, though it retained polygamy, was intensively monotheistic, and until the Turks gained control for the most part encouraged progress.”

  216. Hoff November 2, 2010 @ 7:11 pm

    “ZIONIST GEERT WILDERS EXPOSED”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy2LTd7S-fY

  217. Hoff November 2, 2010 @ 7:49 pm

    “Geert Wilders Supports Israel !”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMLyk3iqbIg&NR=1

  218. Duke Mantee November 3, 2010 @ 3:40 pm

    Kalif:

    I had misgivings about responding to your query as I sensed you were not sincere.

    Your response and succeeding comments demonstrate you are just a moslem sympathizer and Christ hater coming here to stir dissent and strife.

    There is no place for you here nor in America for that matter.

  219. KathJuliane November 3, 2010 @ 4:58 pm

    Dear Kalifa,

    What a delight to have read that your children want to know about Jesus.

    Did Jesus eat pork?

    No, he did not. He kept the Law of God as given to Moses perfectly.

    More than anything else in terms of dietary considerations, under the Holiness and Priestly Codes, swine were unclean for purposes of ritual sacrifice at the tabernacle and temple.

    The ritually clean animals for Israel’s worship were those 5 specific animals that God specified be used for cutting His Covenant with Abraham.

    Pigs were sacrificed in polytheistic fertility cults in that they throw litters of an average of 8 piglets.

    As an Israelite, Jesus is not only of the noble tribe of Judah, but a prince from the royal house of David.

    His lineages through his adoptive father Joseph and of Mary were insignificant and marginalized ones out of probably hundreds of Davidic families. Babylonian (Iraqi) and Persian Jews today claim genealogies from the house of David as well, as does I believe the Peacock Throne, for example.

    However, in Scripture and confirmed by the Rabbinic Targums, Aramaic interpretations of Torah from about 100 BC - 200 CE, the Anointed One, (Messiah) could only be born in the city where David was born, Bethlehem of Judea:

    “And you Bethlehem-Ephrathah who are too little to be counted among the thousands of the house of Judah, from you in My name shall come forth the Messiah who is to be ruler in Israel and whose name has been called from eternity, from the days of old.” [Targum Jonathan on Mikah 5:1 in the Old Testament; Numbers 24:17; Matthew 2:6]

    Moreover, even though King Herod was dead, after returning from Egypt, the Holy Family still needed to live in obscurity, as the house of David not only represented a threat to the Herodian dynasty, but also to the ultra-elite and powerful Hasmonean dynasty and aristocracy, which Herod had married into.

    Herod was cruel and paranoid, and his slaughter of the children of little Bethlehem where historically David was born and prophesied as being where Messiah would be born, and where part of the Davidic clan lived, was apparently an attempt to erase a threat to Herod’s own dynasty.

    It may have been in tacit agreement with the Hasmonean house that Herod had married into as well, who had their own dynastic interests.

    Three times in the NT are also mentioned a party called the Herodians (Mt. 22:16, Mk. 3:6, 12:13), who were at least Jewish political supporters of the ruling house of Herod the Great and monarchists, and who collaborated with the Pharisees against Jesus.

    The Herodians of Jerusalem may also have been the dynastic family branches from Herod’s marriages to the Hasmonean princess Miramne, Miramne daughter of Simon, a priestly family, and Cleopatra of Jerusalem, and were looking for a Herodian/Hasmonean heir for the throne of Jerusalem.
    The Hasmoneans were descendents of the Maccabbees who were an Aaronide high priest clan who righteously rebelled against Antiochus IV in defense of faith and religious freedom, and their descendents went on to finally win complete independence from the Seleucid empire, and founded the Kingdom of Judea.

    At the same time, the Hasmoneans as a high priest clan, usurped and assumed the royal power of the throne of Jerusalem as well, which was by Law reserved to the house of David.

    As such, culturally, Jesus was raised as a Galilean which was worlds apart from life in the district of Judea, and the ruling orbit of the Scribes, Pharisees and Rabbis and the powerful temple and political castes which had a chokehold on the Great Sanhedrin, Jerusalem and the district of Judea.

    Galilee was prosperous and abundant agricultural and commercial trade route area.

    The Galilean and Samaritan Israelites (and rural Judeans in the remoter areas, like the hill country of Judea) were very strict about adhering to the Written Law.

    Galilee also had independent Greek cities, several trade routes crossing it. He and His adoptive father Joseph are each called a carpenter, but the Greek is tekton, an artificer, for example a producer of fabrics, and specifically a craftsman in wood.

    Jesus lived in a small town, Nazareth, which was four miles from a big city in the process of being built up - Sepphoris, which was was known as the jewel of the Galilee. The area that He lived in, He would have been exposed to variety of different people from various parts the world, both Jew and Gentile, from all strata of societies.

    Galilee was predominantly agricultural.

    Sepphoris was a city that existed already in Hellenistic times 2nd-1st century BCE. It was fully developed as a independent Herodian city by Herod’s son Antipas, independent Jewish king and client of Rome.

    In any case, in Galilee in the Gentile dominated areas like Gadara, large swineherds were kept in various places not only for sacrifices at the pagan temples, but also raised for consumption by the Roman army in that a large amount of meat could be raised in a fairly short amount of time, compared to cattle, sheep or goats.
    ~~~

    As far as “Blood pudding” eaten at Christmas time, the answer is no.

    Black pudding or blood pudding is a type of sausage made by cooking blood or dried blood with a filler until it is thick enough to congeal when cooled.

    It’s entirely different from the Christmas pudding.

    Classic Victorian Christmas pudding, or steam pudding, is essentially a festive recipe that brings together what traditionally were expensive or luxurious ingredients - notably the sweet spices that are so important in developing its distinctive rich aroma.

    The pudding is heavy with dried fruit and nuts, and usually made with suet. It is very dark in appearance - effectively black - as a result of the dark sugars and black treacle in most recipes, and its long cooking time.

    It’s dark color could lead people to confuse it with the black pudding.

    The only animal substance in traditional Christmas pudding is suet from beef or mutton, and not lard, which is from pork.

    The treasured spices, some of the dried fruits and nuts were imported from the Middle East. Great Britain and America had trade ties with the Porte.

  220. Kalif November 4, 2010 @ 12:31 am

    @KathJuliane

    Thank you very much for going to such great lengths to give me a perfect explanation from an historical, scriptural and cultural aspect. With such knowledge I too can argue intelligently on the question whether Jesus ate or did not eat pork.

    But again it does not matter what one eats for sustenance because I know people that do not consume pork, but that does not make them the best of human beings, a kind of people that you may not need as neighbors.

    People like you can be hosts when Jesus comes back for you know quite well what he may or may not eat.

  221. Kalif November 4, 2010 @ 1:24 am

    @Duke Mantee

    I am replying to you so as not to be disrespectful to you otherwise I could have easily ignored your directed post to me.

    I had to re-read this topic again just to regain the gist of the argument.

    I agree that I may not be sincere to your way of thinking but that does not make me an insincere person.

    You seem to have unreasonable issues with moslems as if their concerns are of no importance which from judicial points of view is incorrect.

    Confining my answer to you in the context of this thread, that is “What is the point of letting in 80,000 third world immigrants when millions of Americans are out of jobs” my question is do you know what will happen to America tomorrow if moslems were to withdraw their investment money from the American economy today ?

    It may not always be open but moslems have a lot of their money invested in the American economy. Hence if Obama seems to appease 3rd world citizens “mostly from Islamic countries” to resettle in America then it could be a desperate attempt to shore up more investment money into the desperate and unjust economic mess of America that seems to haunt us all.

    Otherwise since when did a religious, political or racial profile matter for the millions of immigrants who go to America’s shore ?

    Moslems seem to be the only ones barred.

    I sympathise with the millions of Americans who have lost their jobs, not because they are Americans, but because they are people that need an income to support their lives honestly. I myself have been without a job since 2004 with a large family and I know how it feels.

    The wrong I can see are.

    1. Obama should not have made a preferential religious status for the immigrants, because that would cause dissent along religious lines, unless such dissent was intentionally provoked.

    2. Americans should not bar moslems as immigrants only along religious confines, because that is not the American tradition, especially given that other than the massacred and decimated Indians every other soul in America is an immigrant.

    Further, I did not come here to ’cause dissent and strife’ but I am quick to question and challenge any issue especially those ones that seem to emanate from bigots or from those who may not be sure of the veracity of their comments.

    As for being a moslem sympathizer, know quite well that I always sympathize with my fellow man, when such sympathy is merited and is on good ground for to do. Otherwise, then I would be no worse than a Jew. For since when did a moslem not deserve an ear ?

    As for being a Christ hater, now let me think. You hardly know me. How can you make such an assumption ? I may be anything or nothing but just by being a moslem sympathizer then that makes me automatically a Christ hater ? Intel may love to hear about your new logic and maybe they can design new type of chips to make computers that will save the American economy.

    Bigotry was more loud in Germany in the 30’s for similar reason’s - ECONOMIC.

  222. Kalif November 4, 2010 @ 1:56 am

    @Duke Mantee

    Ooops I forgot. America had never been a place of choice for me to go to because I could have gone there since the 70’s had I wanted.

    In terms of value there is nothing of value that I know of that would prompt me to go there, not economic ( go read Ayn Rand ), not spiritually ( read the news and reflect ) not culturally ( unless it is a culture of violence and its glorifications) not educationally ( Johnny can’t read - but worse Papa can’t read either and all the new high-tech books are authored by Chinese).

    So you see it is not a place where decent people would love to raise their children or businessmen would love to keep their money ( go ask Paul Craig Roberts why he has hauled off his nanotech elsewhere while it is needed most in America).

    Lastly as a word of caution while you have one eye watching the moslems keep the other one fixed on the Latino. He may have legitimate concerns that can not be easily be brushed off.

  223. Michael November 4, 2010 @ 6:32 am

    Stav, your are the most profound person I have ever met in my life.

    Yes, we need a mass movement. But not an ordinary mass movement. We need a World Revolution. Lets take a page from the Zionist’s book.

    Lets start a united mass movement against them.

    A World Revolution Against EVIL. Enough Wars, Enough Evil, Enough Greed. ENOUGH. We just need a name and a website translated into all the languages of the world.

    WORLD REVOLUTION for the return to the Natural Balance of Nature.

    The EXACT OPPOSITE of the Jewish World Revolution.

  224. Theodor November 4, 2010 @ 6:34 pm

    Dear Kurt,

    The only thing the Zionists are laughing at is Ecumenism, which they created and which is the the religion of the coming Antichrist.

  225. Kalif November 5, 2010 @ 12:54 am

    It looks like this thread has lost its life.

    So I will end it up by saying either justice for all or no justice at all, and we can never have peace without justice.

    And thanks and blessings to Bro +N for having us here where we educate one another and let us all pray for peace and happiness in our times and the times to come.

    Also those with deep pockets please do not hesitate to donate to keep this website alive.

  226. Fr. John November 6, 2010 @ 4:16 am

    While others have already answered this foolish man, (who just isn’t listening) I’d like to weigh in as well. He begins:

    “These comments are most enlightening.

    Considering I am a humble, loud mouthed and uncouth smart ass from a land far, far, away it would seem the enlightened ones of Theology have it in their heads but not in their hearts. Take this for example…”

    And then he quotes my caveat in not ‘judging.’ Why? Because I can’t bear the heat? No. But because, ‘In the manner THAT ye judge, ye ALSO shall be judged.” - Jesus

    I actually was indulging in some pastoral advice to someone, NOT to bring down the righteous judgment of God, on someone who cannot claim the blood of Christ! I was doing you a favor, Moshe!

    So, Moshe - thank you for pointing out the splinter in my eye, while you ignore the log in your own!

    Moshe next pontificates:

    “He (Christ) led by example and He demands we take up our Cross and follow Him. As far as I can tell He never rejected anyone of sincere heart.”

    Hmmmm. Really? Well, what about those who were ‘more righteous’ than anyone else in His (Christ’s) day?

    “Woe to you, Scribes and Pharisees.” - Jesus

    “Whitewashed sepulchres, full of dead men’s bones.” - Jesus

    “Ye are of your father, the Devil and the deeds of your father ye will do.” - Jesus

    So, I question either the necessity, nor the applicability of noting for this audience the statement:

    “I pray 50 times a day [slight exaggeration - too many holocaust memoirs read]. Mostly on my knees, and very often with my forehead to the often dirty floor, and if I am feeling particularly disgusted with myself I kiss the floor and bang my sinful and disgusting forehead against it.”

    While all that bowing and scraping are good for the body, why do it, if it profits not the soul? For false worship, even if you think we share the same God (we do not) is STILL false worship.

    Repentance for sin, without absolution, via the blood of Christ, through the organ of Baptism, the Eucharist, and the only valid priesthood on the planet, does you NO GOOD AT ALL.

    ‘Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.” - John 9:41

    Awareness of sin (while a good first step) does not absolve one from it!

    Moreover, as far as many in the West well before the 20th century were concerned, Islam’s god is a demonic remnant of paganism, (why the Qua’aba’ (sp?) in Saudi Arabia?) What’s a black block of stone have to do with an invisible ‘god’ who says you are only to worship Him/Her/It?

    Or are you worshipping a variation on Satan himself; he who loves to ‘masquerade as an angel of Light’? Is your ‘Allah’ perhaps nothing more than our nemesis, ‘Old Nick’?

    I don’t like to say it, but it must be said. You come on here, (and now bringing some of your other ‘friends’ who are all about ‘don’t say a word against Islam’ to a forum devoted to an honest analysis by Americans of our OWN problems, and you start throwing around accusations of sins and ‘crimes committed’ when you a) don’t know what you are talking about, and b) aren’t even of us?

    “Let us now turn to this new century alone to see what has been done TO MUSLIMS by CHRISTIANS? Do we really need too?”

    Christians? Do you mean George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, or the UCC’ed Barry Obongo?

    Others have said the same thing, but I will say for the record, I consider NONE of these men to be Christians, in that they neither uphold the Cross, nor the Church of the Ages from impunity by the Deicides - who (last time I checked) seemed to be our mutual enemy!

    And yet, while we are trying to work our way out from under the thumb of the Zionist/Khazarian scam, you start a ‘fifth column’ op, within our midst?

    Moshe (Lord God, how I LOATHE applying that name to an infidel!) you state:

    “There are two types of Islam. The Medinah Islam where Muslims were the minority and played the peace and love card. Then you have the second Islam, Mecca Islam, when the Muslims were the majority, and Muhammad limited, robbed, taxed, enslaved, and killed non Muslims.”

    Which is only PARTLY true. As the video below clearly shows to English/Western eyes, it is the LATER parts of the Koran that supercede the earlier, so-called ‘peaceful’ parts. So there really IS no ‘peace and love’ part of that book - its all a smokescreen - what the video’s author notes is a term even in Arabic, that you all know!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w
    (The pertinent statements all start about 2:00 into the presentation)

    You state in another place: ”Lead by example - mind your OWN DAMNED BUSINESS.”

    I agree. When every last Muslim LEAVES THE WEST, returns to the sand huts you dwelt in for centuries, leaving us your oil reserves, the wealth you have embezzled from us, driving up our economies by manipulating the price of oil (which you weren’t using) wars - and their economic inflations, etc.

    All because, before the British, the French, and the Russians started building the Suez Canals, finding and establishing your own economies on oil, allowing your ungrateful sons to enroll in Cambridge, Oxford, and our US colleges, your religion’s adherents didn’t even KNOW what they were sitting on!

    Rather than being merely a race of men whose lives revolved around jihad, camels, and tents, WE White Westerners GAVE YOU EVERTHING YOU HAVE. For THAT, I’ll say, “We’re sorry.”

    When you retreat back to your ‘holy land’ and we can ‘dwell in peace’ keeping you and your kind ‘beyond the pale;’

    Then (maybe) we can TOGETHER abolish the state of Israel, free ourselves from the miasma of fractional reserve banking, remove the Jewish smut merchants, restore the rule of Christian-based (rather than Talmud-based) law in Europe, and finally make the ‘Holy Land’ an international zone that leaves historic Churches (oh, gee, the West/Europe again!) free from either Islamic encroachment or Khazarian/Turkic dreams of world conquest, we ‘might’ all be able to live on the same planet.

    But just as your ethnic brethren, the Khazars, and the militant factions of your [sic] religion continue to engage in ‘world conquest,’ so, too, we - the White Race of Europe, will say, ‘Raus!’ when you breach the Bosporus, the Pillars of Hercules, or the Gates of Vienna.

    Your final comment is so weird, it beggars the imagination.

    “Quit dissing Islam. Quit it. Now.
    God likes them.”

    First off, I am not a resident of the Niger River. I don’t ‘diss.’ I argue from premises with points, and rebuttals. I use my MIND, as a White Man should.

    As to the second comment, hardly. As St. John Chrysostom has said of the one race outside the bounds of Christendom known in his day; so, too, by application, he includes the later heresy from the same part of the world:

    “But if the Jews were to say, that the word, “In Isaac shall thy seed be called,” means this, that those born of Isaac should be reckoned to him for a seed, then the Edomites, too, and all those people, ought to be denominated his sons, since their forefather Esau was a son of his. But now so far are they from being called sons, that they are the greatest possible aliens…” -St. John Chrysostom, Commentary on Romans,
    Homily XVI

    And:

    “The Jew will live under the yoke of slavery without end. God hates the Jews.”
    – Saint John Chrysostom: Six Homilies Against the Jews

    End of story.

  227. Reme November 9, 2010 @ 12:57 pm

    This message is to everyone.

    I don’t know the true agenda of most of you but when we look for other groups to attack, Zionism wins.

    When we join as Christians and Muslims and expose their evil deeds, then we will prevail.

    And until Jesus comes back, we can’t fight, just state our beliefs with facts and when Jesus comes back I believe that he will say that he never said he was GOD and he prays to the One GOD who created everything.

    Bro Nate thank you for exposing the enemy.

  228. rev2939 November 21, 2010 @ 10:04 am

    The more this nation {colors up} the flag bleeds into this, a gray soup color.

    Kinda like Obama, a man of many colors. White is a color kinda like a BASE coat if you get my drift.

  229. Words of Wisdom November 23, 2010 @ 12:50 pm

    Fr. John,

    Sorry for the late reply. With regards to my quote,

    “We can not afford to alienate people of other faiths just because they do not accept Jesus Christ as their savior.”,

    I did not mean to imply anything about immigration. Rather that in this fight against our common enemy we will need everyone that is willing to work with us. We CAN NOT do it alone.

    In other words, if you define these evil Jewish leaders as the biggest threat to the world, you should not and you can not start wildly defining everyone else in the world as a secondary enemy.

    YOU WILL LOSE AGAINST THE JEWS THIS WAY FOR SURE. We CAN hold on to our Christian beliefs without creating unnecessary enemies with Islam or any other religions that doesn’t agree with Christianity.

    We need to put our “ducks in a row” and start with the first duck first.

  230. jgtunde November 25, 2010 @ 8:43 am

    Please to all here read exerts from Romans 11:11

    Did God’s people stumble and fall beyond recovery? Of course not! They were disobedient, so God made salvation available to the Gentiles. But he wanted his own people to become jealous and claim it for themselves.

    12 Now if the Gentiles were enriched because the people of Israel turned down God’s offer of salvation, think how much greater a blessing the world will share when they finally accept it.

    Rather than think of exterminating Israel we should think reaching her with Christ, we should use the sword of the Spirit which is the word of God.

    I don’t think the Jews invented the devil he particularly uses them as he would always perverse any thing that is precious to God. The real issues here are spiritual, let’s not forget that. And anybody who controls the world systems always courts the devil Jews or not.

    Stay blessed.

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