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Jews Are NOT The “Chosen People”

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Jews Are NOT The “Chosen People”

HOW CAN THE JEWS who oppose their own Messiah, Jesus Christ, be the “Chosen People?”

Did not St Paul, the Hebrew of Hebrews, say that the Jews are the enemies of the Cross? (Philippians 3 )

When St Paul said, “The Jews killed the Lord Jesus and their own prophets; they please not God but are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to preach the Gospel to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath of God is come unto them to the uttermost,” did he not make it crystal clear that the Jews are not the “Chosen People?”

And did not Jesus Christ Himself reveal that the Jews are of the Synagogue of Satan? (Revelations 2). Jesus Christ also revealed that the Jews are not true Jews when He said to the Christians of Asia Minor, I will make them who say they are Jews but are not, but do lie, to come and worship before thy feet. (Revelations 3).

How then can the so-called Jews who are now the enemies of the Cross and of the Synagogue of Satan, and who must worship at the feet of Christians, be the “Chosen People?”

Jesus Christ the Messiah of Israel denounced the Jews for rejecting Him when He said, Behold your house is left unto you desolate. And you shall not see Me until you say, Blessed is He Who cometh in the name of the Lord. (St Matthew 23) How then can the Jews whose house is now desolate be the “Chosen People?”

How then can the Jews whose house is now desolate be the “Chosen People?” When the Jews cast in their teeth that they were the seed of Abraham, Jesus replied, “You are of your father of the devil who was a murderer from the beginning.” (St John 8).

Indeed the Jews committed the crime of all crimes, namely, Deicide, when they brought Jesus Christ to Pontius Pilate demanding that Jesus Christ be crucified even when Pilate judged Christ innocent and desired to set Him free. (St Matthew 27).

How then can the Jews, whose father is the devil, and they being murderers like the devil himself by crucifying the Lord of Glory, be the “Chosen People?”

DID NOT JESUS CHRIST say, “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees! For you compass sea and land to make one proselyte. And when he is made, you make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves?” (St Matthew 23).

Even secular Jews defer to the rabbis as their leaders when it comes to interpreting Jewish dogma. How then can the Jews who are children of hell be the “Chosen People?”

How could the Jews to whom Jesus Christ said, Because you do not believe, you are not of my sheep be the “Chosen People?” (St John 10). For to this day the majority of the Jews do not believe in Jesus Christ. What then is their “chosen-ness” if they are not of the Messiah’s sheep?

St John the apostle said, “Many deceivers are gone out into the world who deny that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and Anti Christ.” (II John 1).

How then can the Jews who to this day deny that Jesus Christ the eternal Son of God became man for our salvation be the “Chosen People?” Will we be “deceived” by the Jews that they are the Chosen People? What then is the Jews’ “chosen-ness?”

In the book of Revelations it is written: But the fearful and the unbelieving and the liars shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire. This is the second death.

1. The Jews are fearful of death.

2. They do not believe in the God of the Bible but in the god of the Talmud.

3. The Jews are liars. For they say that they are God’s chosen people when God says that they are an “accursed people” because of their sins. (Isaiah 66:20).

Thus the only “chosen-ness” of the Jews is their being chosen to experience the “second death,” that is, the “lake of fire.”

MOSES WHOM THE JEWS boast as being their hero pronounced a blessing and a curse on the Jews. God, said Moses, would bless the Jews if they showed their love for Him by accepting the “Prophet” Whose teachings would be required of the Jews. (Deuteronomy 13).

But the Jews crucified the “Prophet” rather than receiving His teachings on repentance and confession of his Divine right to demand obedience. Thus the curses that Moses pronounced upon the Jews have been the Jews’ experience over the last 2000 years. (Deuteronomy 28).

Hated, persecuted, censured, (rightly so), wandering from nation to nation when expelled from their host nations, and wreaking havoc wherever they go in their hatred of Christianity, the Jews have indeed experienced the curses predicted of them by Moses and the desolation that Jesus Christ predicted of the Jews for rejecting Him.

JEWS ARE NOT THE “Chosen People.” Christians are the “Chosen People.” God said to Abraham, “I will bless them that bless thee and curse them that curse thee. And in thy seed all of the nations shall be blessed.” (Genesis 12:26).

What “blessings” have the Jews brought to the world since 33 A.D.? Just read today’s headlines and one can clearly see that “curses” have been brought upon society by the Jews.

The War in Iraq serves only the interests of the Jews and their promotion of the Christ-hating State of Israel. The tragedy of the World Trade Center was a result of the Zionist agenda.

The secularization of Western society is caused by the Jews, which has debased the morals of once Christian nations, now rife with the abominations of anal sex of homosexuals and the perverse sexual conduct of lesbians. Jews are on the forefront of promoting these perverse “alternate life-styles.”

Are all of these things “blessings” from the so-called, “seed of Abraham,” the Jews? No. These are all “curses” brought upon us by the “seed of the devil,” the Jews.

Christians ARE God’s “Chosen People” – Not Jews. Christians are the “seed of Abraham.” This is what St Paul the Hebrew of Hebrews said over and over again. Here is one instance of St Paul’s many assertions that Christians NOT JEWS are the seed of Abraham: “If ye be Christ’s then are ye Abraham’s seed.” (Galatians 3:29).

WHEN JESUS CHRIST said to his disciples, “I have chosen you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should remain,” Christians were sealed as God’s Chosen Peoplefor all time. Jews can share in the Christians’ “chosen-ness.”

Jews can share in the Christians’ “chosen-ness.” Jews do not have to continue in a state of “accursedness” and “desolation.” Jesus Christ offers the Jews the chance to embrace Him and have His blessed name called upon them. Yes Jews if they will repent can be called Christians too!

Yes Jews, like myself, a former-Jew, and thousands of others like me, can say, “Blessed is He Who Comes in the name of the Lord! Then the Jews can look forward to heaven and not the lake of fire.

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  1. Edward Jones March 24, 2008 @ 1:06 am

    “Who Are The Original Israelites”

    There is rumor that the United States and Britain are the descendants of the biblical Ephraim and Manassah; this rumor is being spread by followers of Herbert W. Armstrong, and many others.

    Mr. Armstrong had been spreading this rumor up until his death. In his attempt to be a 20th-century prophet, Mr. Armstrong made many un-prophetic errors, he stated in the last book that he wrote, “Mystery Of the Ages,” on page 156, that “the nations of Holland, Belgium, Denmark, France, Luxembourg, Switzerland, and Norway were the descendants of the biblical Israelites.”

    Of course we know today that these nations are members of the European common market and according to the book of Daniel 2:33, they make up the ten toes of the image that the prophet saw and according to the Bible, these nations are “GENTILE” nations.

    So we see that Mr. Armstrong was a poor prophet; just as he made errors attempting to identify the lost tribes of Israel, he was incorrect in his identity of Ephraim and Manassas as the United States and Britain.

    The question is being asked by many people, who are the original Israelites. The book of Deuteronomy chapter 28 gives a clearer picture of who the original Israelites are than any other book in the Bible!

    If anyone is truly interested in determining the true identity of the original Israelites, all they need to do is to concentrate on what is written in the book of Deuteronomy Chap.28, I shall go to this book and prove the point that I just stated.

    Genesis|15:12 And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him.

    Genesis|15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them 400 years; (they shall be Servants,Or Slaves),this Prophecy was made BEFORE Israel went into Egypt, but the Fulfillment of this prophecy would come after the Egyptian captivity.

    Israel Spent 430 yrs. in Egypt, take a look:Exodus|12:40 Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years.

    Exodus|12:41 And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt. So this 400yr. Captivity mentioned in GENESIS would come AFTER the Egyptian captivity!

    Deut 28:68 tells about this Future Captivity, take a look: Deuteronomy|28:68 And the LORD shall “BRING THEE INTO EGYPT AGAIN” (pay close attention to the word “AGAIN” which is referring to a SECOND future Slavery after the Egyptian Captivity) “WITH SHIPS,” by the way whereof I spake unto thee, thou shalt see it no more again:

    And there ye shall be “SOLD” unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen,(Male & Female Slaves) and no man shall buy you = (Purchase your Freedom) and So for a period of 400yrs.Israel would be shipped off to Foreign Shores, “IN SLAVE SHIPS”, and when they get to these foreign Shores it tells what they will face:

    Deuteronomy|28:49 The LORD shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the EAGLE Flieth(The EAGLE America’s National Symbol), a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand;

    Deuteronomy|28:50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor show favor to the young:

    Deuteronomy|28:68 And the LORD shall “BRING THEE INTO EGYPT AGAIN WITH SHIPS” (Any CHILD of scripture knows that Israel was in Egypt Only Once and They didn’t get there in SLAVE SHIPS),the Egypt mentioned here means Slavery: So here is what is being said:

    THAT ISRAEL WILL BE DRIVEN OUT OF THE LAND (FOR BREAKING GOD’S LAWS),THEY Will BE SET UPON BY FOREIGNERS AND TAKEN BY SLAVE SHIPS ACROSS THE SEAS, TO FOREIGN SHORES WHERE THEY WOULD BE SOLD AS MALE & FEMALE SLAVES,WHERE they SHALL AFLICT THEM 400yrs.(Gen.15:13). (400 years was the approximate length of the “AFRICAN Slave TRADE” world wide)!

    I Challenge anyone to find any EUROPEAN People or (Israeli JEW) that were taken into slavery for a 400 year period in Slave Ships! (I will save you the Trouble, the answer is NONE, ZERO!!); if you claim that you are a TRUE DESCENDANT of the BIBLICAL ISRAELITES,you should be able to go to your history and and point out exactly when this happened to you.

    I challenge any European, OR Israeli JEW, to make this Scripture fit them, if you can’t making it fit you, you CANNOT BE an ISRAELITE, or the descendant of EPHRAIM or MANASSAH (who were ISRAELITES), as a matter of fact there is only ONE GROUP of people on the face of the WHOLE EARTH that this happened to, FIND THOSE PEOPLE AND YOU HAVE FOUND THE TRUE ISRAELTES! (ACCORDING TO BIBLICAL SCRIPTURE) !

    If you are European and are making the claim that you are an Israelite, why hasn’t this happened to you? Slavery was a CURSE that God placed on ISRAEL for breaking His laws and Following after Other Gods!

    God said that the Israelites would be taken into a 400 yr. captivity in SLAVE SHIPS; the book of (Titus 1:2) said that God cannot lie! If you are European and your history has shown that the events mentioned above have NEVER happened to you and you still claim that you’re an ISRAELITE,OR FROM LINEAGE OF EPHRAIM & MANASSAH,this claim would make Biblical Scripture & God is a Liar!

    WHAT COLOR WERE THE ORIGINAL ISRAELITES (THIS INCLUDES EPHRAIM & MANASSAH), who were ISRAELITES and were the sons of JOSEPH & his BLACK EGYPTIAN WIFE “ASENATH”!

    What color was JOSEPH and his other Israelite Brothers? Most people have a Misguided and Racist, “CECIL B. DeMILLE’S TEN COMMANDMENTS” Movie Industry viewpoint of what color the Original Israelites were, Not a Biblical and Common sense one!

    Here is how GOD Describes His Chosen People ISRAEL (which includes EPHRAIM & MANASSAH) Amos|9:7 “Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel? saith the LORD.”

    As we can see from the above Scripture, God is comparing his people to black Ethiopians! The word Ethiopian comes from the Greek word Aeithiop, which means “Burned Face” OR “BLACK SKIN”!

    Why would The God Of Israel compare His Chosen People to BLACK Ethiopians if they were a WHITE nation as we are led to believe?

    What color were the original EGYPTIANS? This is an important question to ask
    Because GOD described the Israelites as looking like Egyptians!

    Moses was mistaken for an Egyptian (Exodus 2:19)! He spent 40 years in the House of Pharaoh (Acts 7:23), he passed as Pharaoh’s grandson (Exodus 2:6,10).

    The Apostle Paul was mistaken for an Egyptian (Acts 21:38)! Since Moses and Paul were both Israelites and were both mistaken for Egyptians, it can be safely said that Egyptians and Israelites were the same color!

    The testimony of the ancients, the Bible and many Egyptologists have confirmed that the Egyptians during biblical times were a BLACK-SKINNED PEOPLE. This is important to know because the Bible describes the ancient Hebrews as looking like the Egyptians.

    Gerald Massey, English writer and author of the book, “Egypt the Light of the World.” On pg 251 he wrote “The dignity is so ancient that the insignia of the Pharaoh evidently belong to the time when Egyptians wore nothing but the girdle of the Negro.”

    Sir Richard Francis Burton, a 19th century English explorer, writer and Linguist. In 1883 he wrote to Gerald Massey and said “You are quite right about the “AFRICAN” origin of the Egyptians I have a 100 human skulls to prove it.”

    R. T. Prittchett, a scientist in his book “Natural Histroy of Man” Pg 124-125 said, “In their complex and many of the complexions and in physical peculiarities the Egyptians were an “AFRICAN” race.

    The Ancient Greek historian Herodotus who visited Egypt in the 5th century B.C.E. and saw the Egyptians FACE TO FACE. Said “the Egyptians were Black-skinned and had woolly hair.”

    Anthropologist Count Constatin de Volney (1727-1820). Spoke about the race of the Egyptians that produced the Pharaohs. He later paid tribute to Herodotus discovery when he said:

    “The ancient Egyptians were true Negroes of the same type as all native born Africans. That being so, we can see how their blood mixed for several centuries with that of the Romans and Greeks, must have lost the intensity of it’s original color, while retaining none the less the imprint of it’s original mold.

    “We can even state as a general principle that the face (this is the sphinx) is a kind of monument able, in many cases, to attest or shed light on historical evidence on the origins of the people.”

    The fact that the ancient Egyptians were black skinned made Volney say this:

    “What a subject for meditation just think that the race of black men today our slaves and the object of our scorn. Is the very race to which we owe our arts, science and even the use of our speech.”
    On one occasion MOSES was Mistaken for an Egyptian (Exodus 2:19), (that Moses whom God choose to lead the children of Israel out of Egypt).

    Exodus 2:15 Moses fled from the face of Pharaoh, and dwelt in the land of Midian: and he sat down by a well.

    Exodus|2:16 Now the priest of Midian had seven daughters: and they came and drew water, and filled the troughs to water their father’s flock.

    Exodus|2:17 And the shepherds came and drove them away: but Moses stood up and helped them, and watered their flock.

    Exodus|2:18 And when they came to Reuel their father, he said, How is it that ye are come so soon to day?

    Exodus|2:19 And they said, “AN EGYPTIAN” delivered us out of the hand of the shepherds, and also drew water enough for us, and watered the flock.

    In order for Moses to be mistaken for a Black Egyptian he also had to be BLACK!

    Next in Genesis chapter 50 verses 7-11 scripture describes all the Hebrews as looking like the ancient Egyptians. After Jacob (who’s name was changed to Israel) died in the land of Egypt.

    All the Hebrews and Egyptians went down to the land of Canaan to bury him (he ask his son to bury him in the land of canaan with his forefathers Genesis 49:29-30).

    Verses 7-8 says all the Elders of Pharaoh’s house and all the elders of the land of Egypt along with all the Hebrews (except for their small children) went down.

    VERSE 9 says “it was a very great company,”

    VERSE 11 says the Canaanites saw the funeral procession and said “THIS IS A GRIEVOUS MOURNING TO THE EGYPTIANS.”

    But remember this was a mix multitude of Hebrews and Egyptians going to bury a HEBREW, and the Canaanites only identified the Egyptians. WHY? Because the Canaanites saw a great company of black-skinned people who were all probably dressed according to the customs and fashions of Egypt and they all looked liked native (black) Egyptians.

    If the Hebrews were a white skinned people (like we are lead to believe) the Canaanites who were familiar with both the Hebrews and Egyptians would have acknowledge them both by saying ‘THIS IS A GRIEVOUS MOURNING TO THE EGYPTIANS AND HEBREWS.”

    The scripture goes on to say that the Canaanites named the place where they saw this great mourning for a Hebrew. Abel Mizraim which means the meadow of Egypt.

    Now lets go to one of the most famous stories of the Hebrews in Egypt, and that’s the story of Moses. Many many years after the death of Joseph, Jacob and all the Hebrews that entered Egypt during the time Joseph was viceroy.

    The Hebrew population in Egypt grew tremendously, and because of this they were no longer looked at as friendly neighbors. They were now seen as hostile enemies. So the Egyptians enslaved the Hebrews. (Exodus 1:7-13).

    Because the Hebrews had a population growth the Egyptians also decided to enact their own form of birth control. Pharaoh gave a decree that all Hebrew males be killed at birth. Now we must keep this point in mind because this takes us directly to the story of Moses. Moses was an Hebrew Israelite from the tribe of Levi (exodus 2:1-3).

    Moses spent 40 years in the house of pharaoh (Acts 7:23) he passed as the Pharaoh’s grandson (exodus 2: 6, 10), during the time Pharaoh order all Hebrew males to be killed at birth. So Moses had to look just like Pharaoh. Meaning, Pharaoh was a black-skinned descendant of Ham, so Moses had to look like a black-skinned descendant of Ham also.

    Many Scholars say that the Pharaoh that was on the throne of Egypt at the time of Moses birth was Pharaoh Seti I. He was father of Rameses II (also known as the Pharaoh of the oppression aka Rameses the great).

    George Rawlinson, an English author wrote a book entitled “History of Egypt” on pg 252 he gives a description of Seti I, he states: ‘THAT SETI’S FACE WAS THOROUGHLY AFRICAN HE HAS A STORMY FACE WITH A DEPRESSED FLAT NOSE THICK LIPS AND HEAVY CHIN.” (This is how pictures in his tomb looked), this has to be the same description of Moses.

    Because he was raised in the house of Pharaoh, at the time Pharaoh himself, ordered all Hebrew males to be killed at birth. If the Israelites were a white skinned people how could Moses the Hebrew survive in the house of Pharoah among black-skinned Egyptians for 40 years, and go unnoticed?

    How could Pharaoh face his people and rule over them if he gives a decree, to kill all Hebrew males. But yet he knows he has one living in his house. Moses survived because he was a black-skinned man just as the Egyptians were. Just like the Canaanites couldn’t tell the Hebrews from the Egyptians. Pharaoh couldn’t either, or else Moses would have been killed instantly.

    Now let’s look at a COMMON SENSE view point of the ONLY color the Egyptians had to have been: The highest temperature ever recorded ON EARTH was on the border of Egypt and Libya (Azizia Libya in 1922); was officially recorded at 136 degrees F. and the temperatures can go up to almost 150 degrees F in many parts Egypt!

    Anyone who is Indigenous to Egypt (a descendant of many generations of Egyptians), must be What Color? Before you answer, remember this requires a “COMMON SENSE” answer not a Racist Movie Industry one!

    “WHITE EGYPTIANS,” how DUMB can such a concept be!! There are highly educated people that believe this STUPIDIY because of what they see in the movies combined with their own Racial stereo types!!

    Remember GOD’S description of His people ISRAEL:

    Amos|9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, Ochildren of Israel saith the LORD? (Ethiopians are BLACK)!!

    The people that Control Egypt today and claiming to be the descendants of the original Egyptians are NOT EGYPTIANS AT ALL, but are the descendants of the Islamic warriors from Mohammed’s conquering armies who conquered all of Northern Africa and drove most of the Black Africans out to central and southern Africa Centuries ago (who would not convert to Islam),and still control this area today.

    That’s why their skin color is too”Light” for a land area where the “World’s Highest Temperatures” were recorded; the Africans in central and southern Africa (where the temperature averages 30 degrees cooler), have BLACK SKIN.

    So it stands to reason that these people are NOT indigenous to an area where the temperatures can climb to over a 140 degrees F., even though they are claiming that they are the descendants Of the Original “BLACK” Egyptians which contradicts all REASON, COMMON SENSE, and GENETICS!

    Question: are the people in ISRAEL today true Israelites? Lets go to Scripture to see what it says:

    Isaiah|11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb

    Isaiah|11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

    Isaiah|11:11 And it shall come to pass (”IN THAT DAY”), that the Lord shall set his hand again the “SECOND” time (the FIRST time was from Egypt with the Ten Plagues), to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.

    Isaiah|11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

    So God is saying that when Israel is returned to the land (In That Day) “A LION WILL EAT STRAW LIKE AN OX”, the people that are in Israel today have been there for over HALF A CENTURY and I have yet to see any LIONS EAT STRAW (and neither have anyone else)!!

    There is some interesting Scripture in The Book of Revelation that gives a clue as to who are not Israelites! Take a look:

    Revelation|2:9 I know thy works, and “TRIBULATION, and POVERTY,” (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

    Revelation|3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of SATAN WHICH SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT, BUT DO LIE; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

    Notice what God says about the “TRIBULATION and POVERTY” of the true Israelites (Rev.2:9) (Todays Jews are the RICHEST and most Influential Group on Earth, and and have NEVER been in Tribulation or Poverty anytime in recent or past history), that there are a people calling themselves Jews “BUT ARE NOT,” but are of the SYNAGOGUE of Satan.

    Notice the word SYNAGOGUE, now who in the world uses the word SYNAGOGUE to represent their House of Worship?

    Any child of the Scriptures knows the answer to that one!! If you pay close
    attention to what is being said here:

    THAT THE FAKE JEWS WHO’S HOUSE OF WORSHIP IS CALLED A SYNAGOGUE, IN THE LAST DAYS, SHALL BE MADE BY GOD TO COME AND WORSHIP AT THE FEET OF THE TRUE ISRAELITES IN THE SIGHT OF THE WHOLE WORLD!! (Revelation 3:9)

    It should be painfully clear to many who are reading this work that the world has been misled with LIES as to the actual color and identity of the True Israelites.

    The list of those responsible for this deception is very long and extends back many centuries, to mention just a few:

    “Satan which deceiveth the whole world,” (Rev 12:9) painters like Leonardo Da Vinci and the many religious works he painted, the movie industry influence from movies such as Cecil B. DeMill’s Ten Commandments and Every other religious movie that has come after it.

    Add to that list our own personal racal stereotyping, and the most misleading of all, the belief that the descendants of the original Israelites returned to Israel in 1948, when the Bible CLEARLY tells (anyone who would take the time to read it), that the true Israelites will not be returned to that land until After the Second coming of Christ!! (Isaiah chapter 11) is just one of the MANY places in Scripture where you can read this!

    Why can’t the world see it’s misidentification of the True Israelites? The answer is in the following Scripture:

    Deut.32:26 (”I said I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men”)!

    God made the identity of the True Israelites anonymous because they are under His CURSE for breaking His Laws and being disobedient, (Deuteronomy 28:15-48),and will be so until the Second coming of Christ.

    God did not want anyone to take the following Scripture to heart and show the “True Israelites” FAVORS as many in the world do for the “Fake Jews” that entered Israel in 1948 claiming to be the descendants of the Original Israelites!

    Millions of dollars are collected and given to these people every year along with over 15 Billion Dollars of American Tax money (about $2200 for each citizen in Israel), because those doing the donating think they will get a Blessing from God because of their misinterpretation of the following Scripture:

    Gen. 12:3 “And I will BLESS them that bless you, and CURSE him that curses you!”

    The above Scripture will NOT come true until After the Second coming of Christ which is when the TRUE ISRAELITES will be returned to the land of Israel (Isaiah 11:6-12), so those collecting money for Israel are collecting money for THE WRONG PEOPLE AT THE WRONG TIME!!

    Lev. 19:33 And if a stranger sojourn with you in your land, you shall not vex him.

    Lev. 19:34 But the stranger that dwells with you shall be to you as one born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your

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  2. Wilfred Mische March 30, 2008 @ 11:59 pm

    Thank you for the information and explanation about your belief.

  3. Tom Martin April 5, 2008 @ 3:05 pm

    Looks to me after reading E. Jones that he firmly believes he knows the Bible. The only thing you are doing is wasting time and comment space.

  4. russell weather April 10, 2008 @ 1:16 pm

    Please Edward I understand your well meaning motives.

    Use a concordance, A verse to tell you more. “can an Ethiopian change his colour or another can a Leopard change his spots.”

    To use Deut 28, Blacks never sold themselves into slavery and they were buyers. 400 years is not stated, my friend, go and look.

    You use the word “many” far too often of scholars who seemed to help your arguments.

    The church is big enough for all races. For Christ’s sake give it up. We are the real Israel Phillipians 3.

  5. Wilfred Mische April 18, 2008 @ 1:05 am

    Genesis 15, verses 13-14 will help the 400 years to be understandable, which Edward explained.

    I find it to be very interesting when Minister Farrakhan spoke to the same reference. To an unknown land (when it was written) that was in the west.

    Thank you Edward.

  6. Prussian Eagle April 25, 2008 @ 10:41 am

    The Jews broke their covenant with God a LONG TIME AGO. Look up the word ‘covenant’ in the dictionary. They lost their status AND their LAND when they REJECTED GOD’S COVENANT:

    2 KINGS 17:12-20

    12For they served idols, whereof the LORD had said unto them, Ye shall not do this thing.

    13Yet the LORD testified against Israel, and against Judah, by all the prophets, and by all the seers, saying, Turn ye from your evil ways, and KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS and my statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by my servants the prophets.

    14Notwithstanding they would not hear, but hardened their necks, like to the neck of their fathers, that did not believe in the LORD their God.

    15And they rejected his statutes, AND HIS COVENANT THAT HE MADE WITH THEIR FATHERS, and his testimonies which he testified against them; and they followed vanity, and became vain, and went after the heathen that were round about them, concerning whom the LORD had charged them, that they should not do like them.

    16And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal.

    17And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.

    18Therefore the LORD was very angry with Israel, and removed them out of his sight: there was none left but the tribe of Judah only.

    19Also Judah kept not the commandments of the LORD their God, but walked in the statutes of Israel which they made.

    20And the LORD rejected all the seed of Israel, and afflicted them, and delivered them into the hand of spoilers, until he had cast them out of his sight.

  7. caradoc1 April 28, 2008 @ 11:32 am

    CONTINUATION FROM ABOVE: also when you check the time period of the dedication of the first temple by Solomon, and go backwards, counting the number of years from the dedication back, you wind up in the time period, of Tut-moses the 3rd, Tut-moses the second is barely mentioned and never came to power.

    In fact his mother reigned as the only female pharaoh ever to sit the throne, and disguised herself as a man, while dressing up her son Tut-moses the 2nd as a girl.

    The queen pharaoh was eventually overthrown and most of her memory and that of her sons was obliterated from history, but enough was left to be uncovered later by archaeologist of today.

    That overthrow was done by Tut-moses the 3rd, Tut-moses the 1ST, father, was the pharaoh who put the Hebrews into slavery. All this took place in approximately 80 years.

    The strange thing is the simialarity of the names, Moses vs. Tut-moses. Any connection, no one knows for sure but the names are very close.

    But what Edward as well as Mr. Jones, who he must be reading from, deliberately or ignorantly ignores the wealth of historical information showing the journey of the 12 tribes up into Europe. even some of the apocryphal books mentions Israel’s sojourn in parts of Europe.

    The Assyrian record on the Behistun Rock, as well as other Assyrian records clearly shows the entire 12 tribes being deported, with the exception of the tiny minority held up in Jerusalem, even the Bible confirms this.

    The Babylonian record also confirms the location of the 12 tribes during their captivity by the Assyrians, which was in 2 locations up by what we call Turkey, at the northern border of the Medea-Persian empire.

    When Assyria fell to Babylon the Israelites were being used as mercenaries, but when the Babylonians proved to be just as bad as the Assyrians, the Israelites joined forces with Cyrus the Great, when he overthrew Babylon

    Then the Israelites under the name of the Scythians, by the Greek, as well as Massegeetes, also called the Succi by the Persians, came down and took a whole lot of Israelites still in the Babylonian area and took them back up to their original location.

    At this time, Cyrus the Great gathered his army and chased after them, at which time not only was Cyrus’ army slaughtered, but he too was killed.

    Later on when his son Darius took the throne, he assembled a vast army to take revenge on these Israelites, though called by a different name by them as well as others. He gave chase to them all the way across the Dardanelles up into the Russian steppes, and was forced to turn back.

    From that point on they slowly broke up into different groups and spread throughout Europe. This is confirmed by ancient historians, each giving a different name to them, but the same people.

    One of the most common names by the greeks was Scythian, which in the Greek means booth dwellers, refering to them travelling and living in booths. Even Alexander the Great mentions these people who his father could never defeat, and neither did he, and he eventually wound up making a treaty with them.

    What’s interesting in that name is the fact that Israel, when it was a nation, was required by Moses to spend one week in booths each year as a memorial to their 40 years of wandering. This in no way connects them to the gypsies who also lived a similar life style. The fact was, that Assyrians forbade the Israelites from building any cities but instead forced them to live in their booths, hence booth dwellars by the Greeks.

    The Assyrians themselves called the Israelites after the name of the dynasty that was in place after they captured Samaria the capital of Israel, which was created by King Omri. The Assyrians called them Beth-Komri, or Beth-Kimmri, meaning House of Omri.

    From there the name Komri/Kimmri, became Kimmerian, Kimri, Cyrmi, Kelt, Celt, all derivatives of the same name Beth-Komri/or Beth Kimri.

    The Babylonians called them Saki, meaning house of Issac. From that down through time also became another name for them, called Saxon, short for Isaacson, or Isaxon.

    These names and many more have all been used in history detailed by the ancient historians when describing these people that they came into contact with, even though they all gave them different names depending on there local at the time.

    And there is a wealth of info from these ancient historians confirming this, but Jones and his followers act like they know more then the ancient historians who were there.

    Also if you look at the Bible prophecies you will see God stating that

    (1) He was going to move his people to a new land so that they would not be bothered by their former enemies — this He told to King David. Also, (2) that He would speak to them in a new tongue, called stammering lips, and (3) that they would forget the former things of old.

    In other words they would forget not only who they were but also from whence they came. This occured when he took away their name, how you say, the name of Israel was also tied to their land.

    When they were deported, they now started going by whatever name everybody else called them, until eventually the remembrance of who they were and came from disappeared into the dark pages of history. Even though some called themselves Kelts, they couldn’t pin-point the origin of the name, it was a name they always went by.

    (4) Also they would elect their leaders from amonsgt themselves; (5) that they would be a people of un-walled cities; (6) When Jacob gathered his sons before him before he died, he gave them their blessings and curses and told them what would become them in the last days.

    Each tribe, later on expanded by Moses, received certain characteristics that would become part of that tribe’s character, which they would display, even though later on they would become unconscious of it. Again showing that consciously they would forget who they were, but unconsciously as a tribe and eventually a state and nation they would display these characteristics, in there national identity.

    The problem with Jones and his crowd is that they don’t understand Hebrew or Greek euphemisms too well. In fact, I would say hardly at all as they have demonstrated time and time again, because the Bible is filled with these Hebrew euphemisms and metaphors, and are not to be taken literally as so many do today.

    As I have stated there is a wealth of info, but most people either just won’t believe it, or just don’t know that this info exists at all.

    One place to look is at (http://www.hoffmanprinting.com/catalog/) is also called Artisan Publishers, an outfit that republishes rare Christian books, that are either hard to find, or have been forgotten by so called main stream Judeo-Christian churches as they like to call themselves today.

    Another site but takes a whole lot of studying is (http://www.israelect.com/reference/). Go to link to emaihser’s teaching letters.and study all of his teaching letters, as well as research them for your own peace of mind, for I have researched all their sources and they are quite accurate, and are presented truthfully and completely.

    Also another site is (http://www.christianparty.net/). I will leave you with this command that ST. PAUL GAVE TO ST. TIMOTHY, study and show thyself approved, and by that he meant research, research, research, for that is the only way you can prove all things as he exhorts us to do.

  8. admin April 28, 2008 @ 5:16 pm

    Dear Caradoc1 -

    You are evidently using this Comment Section 0n my Site REAL JEW NEWS to promote your false and heretical cult known as Armstrongism/British Israelism.

    The Tribal geneologies were lost and the Levitical geneologies were burned by Herod all in the 1st Century AD.

    You CANNOT prove that anyone is descended from the 12 Tribes of Israel, just as the Jews cannot. So please:

    DO NOT USE THIS SITE TO PROMOTE YOUR HERESY!

    +Brother Nathanael - Orthodox Christian

  9. kevin May 2, 2008 @ 12:06 pm

    Hey, Bro Nate

    Have you read the writings of Tacitus (the Histories Book V)? He tells of the origins of the Jews, how and why they came out of egypt all the things we know about the jews today tacitus knew in 109A.C.E

    He said they are a race detested by the gods. It even tells where Sodom is at. I say Sodom was a place like America and the Jews turned it into Sodom just like they are doing to America today.

    Please read it and tell me what you think.

  10. Billy May 4, 2008 @ 11:54 am

    Excellent site here.

    Preach it, my Brother in Christ!

  11. Billy June 1, 2008 @ 3:16 pm

    Kevin the Jews didn’t come out of Egypt. It was Hebrews you are talking about. They are not the same people.

    Edward Jones is so wrong.

    King David was ruddy and fair complexion. I think the Jewish historian Josephus wrote that Christ had golden hair and fair skin with a pleasant look about him..

    The propechies given to Jacob’s seed can not be found among the Black people.

  12. Arnold June 19, 2008 @ 10:26 am

    God also said this of Israel.

    Nehemiah 9:7: Thou art the LORD the God, who didst choose Abram, and broughtest him forth out of Ur of the Chaldees, and gavest him the name of Abraham;

    Now, there are still Chaldeans in Iraq, look at one.

  13. mrsthang38 July 24, 2008 @ 8:51 pm

    Billy LOOK:

    Gen 15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and they shall afflict them four hundred years; Exodus 8 Now there arose up a new king over Egypt which knew not Joseph. Israel was in Egypt 430 years, half that time they had favor with the king over Egypt.

    Deuteronomy 28:68 And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt (bondage) again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee. (Israel) Thou shalt see it no more again:

    Question: What people went into Egypt (bondage) in ships???

    And as for the Jews in Israel, READ Obadiah — it’s a short book.

  14. mrsthang38 July 24, 2008 @ 10:35 pm

    Prussian Eagle:

    1The vision of Obadiah. Thus saith the Lord GOD concerning Edom; We have heard a rumour from the LORD, and an ambassador is sent among the heathen, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle.

    2Behold, I have made thee small among the heathen: thou art greatly despised.

    3The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?

    4Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

    5If thieves came to thee, if robbers by night, (how art thou cut off!) would they not have stolen till they had enough? if the grapegatherers came to thee, would they not leave some grapes?

    6How are the things of Esau searched out! how are his hidden things sought up!

    7All the men of thy confederacy have brought thee even to the border: the men that were at peace with thee have deceived thee, and prevailed against thee; they that eat thy bread have laid a wound under thee: there is none understanding in him.

    8Shall I not in that day, saith the LORD, even destroy the wise men out of Edom, and understanding out of the mount of Esau?

    9And thy mighty men, O Teman, shall be dismayed, to the end that every one of the mount of Esau may be cut off by slaughter.

    10For thy violence against thy brother Jacob shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.

    11In the day that thou stoodest on the other side, in the day that the strangers carried away captive his forces, and foreigners entered into his gates, and cast lots upon Jerusalem, even thou wast as one of them.

    12But thou shouldest not have looked on the day of thy brother in the day that he became a stranger; neither shouldest thou have rejoiced over the children of Judah in the day of their destruction; neither shouldest thou have spoken proudly in the day of distress.

    13Thou shouldest not have entered into the gate of my people in the day of their calamity; yea, thou shouldest not have looked on their affliction in the day of their calamity, nor have laid hands on their substance in the day of their calamity;

    14Neither shouldest thou have stood in the crossway, to cut off those of his that did escape; neither shouldest thou have delivered up those of his that did remain in the day of distress.

    15For the day of the LORD is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.

    16For as ye have drunk upon my holy mountain, so shall all the heathen drink continually, yea, they shall drink, and they shall swallow down, and they shall be as though they had not been.

    17But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.

    18And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it.

    19And they of the south shall possess the mount of Esau; and they of the plain the Philistines: and they shall possess the fields of Ephraim, and the fields of Samaria: and Benjamin shall possess Gilead.

    20And the captivity of this host of the children of Israel shall possess that of the Canaanites, even unto Zarephath; and the captivity of Jerusalem, which is in Sepharad, shall possess the cities of the south.

    21And saviours shall come up on mount Zion to judge the mount of Esau; and the kingdom shall be the LORD’s.

  15. Serbia September 1, 2008 @ 6:09 am

    Wasn’t it the destiny of Jesus Christ to die for the sins of the human race?

    So, if the Jews did not applied for the crucifixion of Jesus Christos, wouldn’t somebody else do it? If Jesus Christos wasn’t crucified, how could than our sins be forgiven, with out his works on the Cross?

    Did not Jesus said, while He was dying on the Cross, Father forgive them they do not know what they are doing? The Jews could not collectively accept Jesus Christos during and before the crucifixion, because they did not believe that He was God, the Messiah.

    After Jesus stood up from the death:

    When Jesus raised up from the Death, was not that main evidence, for the Jews, to start to believe in Him? I can not understand how the Pharisees couldn’t be convinced about the real identity of Jesus Christos after He stoop up from the death?

    Did not they see Jesus dying on the Cross and did not they see Him also in life 3 days after the crucifixion?

    I just can’t understand why the Jews didn’t collectively embrace Jesus Christos after He had defeated the Death. It didn’t happen often that somebody stoop up from the death?

  16. David Goldsmith September 17, 2008 @ 6:34 pm

    BN said: “What then is their “chosen-ness” if they are not of the Messiah’s sheep?”

    Well, consider today this is quietly going on behind the fluff FOX “news” reports…

    [quote]Temple Institute Announces: High Priest’s Crown is Ready!
    (IsraelNN.com) The Temple Institute in Jerusalem announces the completion of the Tzitz, the High Priest’s headplate - now ready for use in the Holy Temple.

    The tzitz is made of pure gold, was fashioned over the course of a more than a year by the craftsmen of the Temple Institute, and is ready to be worn by the High Priest in the rebuilt Holy Temple in Jerusalem.[/unquote]
    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/124443

    The “High Priest” name, taken from the same Exodus Biblical passage they use, will be “Aaron”?

    http://universaltorah.com/programming/2007/11/29/the-golden-crown-of-the-high-priest.htm

    “High Priest” Aaron will be anti-Yeshua, or pro-Yeshua?
    (there is no letter “J” in in the alphabet from where Yeshua was born.)

    After a (supposed) 1400+ year holiday, the SANHEDRIN are coming public again, why?
    http://www.thesanhedrin.org/

    Shalom,
    David Goldsmith
    http://www.lovesite.isgreat.org

  17. Sam November 5, 2008 @ 6:02 pm

    European Jews are not Israelites

    Anti Semite farce. No such thing as a Semite ever existed. This concoction was fabricated by the false ‘Jews’ of Europe.
    http://encyclopediaegypt.com/israel/i0100.htm

    Blonds in ancient Egypt… giggle.. tee hee http://encyclopediaegypt.com/israel/eg-blond.htm

    How DNA is now being used to identify the race of an original population of the earth http://encyclopediaegypt.com/e-race.htm

    While these Europeans could not possibly be Israelites their family trees do connect them to the Nazis as well as other Europeans

    Poor little ‘Jewish’ victims of the Nazis were nothing but their European relatives. Date Line NBC program on ‘Jews in Hitler’s Nazi Army’ … Jew Nazi soldiers, Jew Nazi officers, the skeletons they hide in their closets.
    http://encyclopediaegypt.com/israel/f3000.htm
    *****************************
    The book and author on the Date Line NBC program on ‘Jews in Hitler’s Nazi Army.’

    http://encyclopediaegypt.com/israel/f3000b.htm
    *****************************

  18. carol trent December 6, 2008 @ 7:49 am

    I wish Christ would come now and put things the way they should be.

    There is a remnant, we are it, stand strong saints in the evil day, put on the whole armor of our God. Stand and see the salvation of our God. He led the Hebrews through the Red Sea.

    He will see us through to safety and to have a Red Sea Experience we have to have our backs against the sea, that is the circumstance we presently find ourselves in now.

    All praises be to God!

  19. Rene Scherger January 8, 2009 @ 6:11 am

    Wow! Sam has the best and brightest comment on this subject.

    Of course, I already knew this (in spite of my certitude that the ‘Babble’ is..well just that). I am going to post Sam’s reply elsewhere.

  20. celtiberian August 7, 2009 @ 6:43 pm

    Besides, in a documentary, that it besides circulates for Internet, named “The Exodus Deciphered In,” it can be checked that the supernatural phenomena that rumor has it that they happened when the Jews were cast away of Egypt.

    The phenomena demonstrate themselves scientifically.

    Note: sorry my little English.

  21. Jay Cee August 19, 2009 @ 9:26 am

    Mr Edwards Jones reminded everyone that the Hebrews were slaves in Egypt once and again in the Middle Ages. His explanation is satisfactory, as it is supported by historical facts.

    In the Bible, in the New Testament times, the Hebrews were expelled from Israel by conquering Romans, in fact the Romans committed genocide by killing Hebrews who were not, at that time, an army.

    They besieged Jerusalem, and those who escaped to the Judean mountains were the only ones to survive famine, pestilence and the sword as the Lord’s prophets had foretold about the Hebrews in the Bible.Those Hebrews who tried to fight it out as guerillas, were massacred by the Romans.

    Today that massacre would be called genocide, because Israel was not equipped to fight a big Roman army and the Romans should have just captured them. But they chose genocide. Josephus, who was also a Pharisee, recorded the massacres and was not trusted by the Hebrews themselves as they saw him as that man who betrayed them to the Romans.

    Do you not see the signs of the serpent seedline in these massacres and other subsequent massacres in our world ?.

    In the garden of Eden, God said that He would put enmity between the seed of Satan and the woman’s seed, and today we know who is Satan’s seed, i.e. those who use killing of the other side as a way to hide the truth.

    The Hebrews, being God’s own children, were not killers in the same mould as the Serpent’s seedline. This serpent seedline is responsible for all the genocide in our world today, and was responsible for the massacre of Hebrews in Israel and elsewhere.

    This is another way to decide who is Israel and who is the seed of the serpent in our world today. They are many nations who organise killings through wars, insurrections, terror, genocide etc. who now pretend there descendants of the lost tribes of Israel.

    The Bible has clearly indicated that there are two nations, or two peoples (remember Jacob and Esau) in the world today. There is hatred between them because one seed is of God, then the other seed is of the devil.

    The seed of the devil will be like their father in character, remember, he was a murderer from the beginning…as Jesus said to them in John 8:44 “You are of your father, the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.”

    There is also deception in our world to the extent that there are people who masquarade as Israel and others who falsely claim they are Israel. This serpent seedline has committed gross crimes against humanity and have a lot to hide, and so they pose as Israel or they say they are descendants of Israel.

    The Bible not only identifies these people, in many places but also the Lord Jesus Christ helped us to identify the rulers of Israel, (who had pushed themselves to the forefront as Israel) as the serpent seedline.

    In Israel at that time there were many people from surrounding nations who had claimed the title of Israel, because they knew Israel as the beloved of the Lord God. Therefore it is not difficult to imagine that the Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes and people like Judas Iscariot, and others who were of the serpent seedline, not only claimed citizenship of Isreal but lineage of true Israel.

    There were also, of course, true Israelites at that time in Israel as examplified by the disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ. These people of Israel descent, children of Abraham in faith, were true Israel and became the first Christians.

    Most people like to dismiss them as non-Christians and merely refer to them as Hebrews. But in truth, it is Israel, which is the foundation of Christianity. The Lord Jesus told Peter, the little stone, that His Church was to be founded on that stone, and would be made up of Apostles and Prophets and He Himself as the chief cornerstone (see Ephesians 2:20).

    Therefore Israel is embedded in Christianity. Without Israel there is no Christianity. Peter was no doubt one of the Apostles and one of the foundation stones that the Lord Jesus was talking about.

    Now today, we also have the same mix of serpent seedline and children of God. Even among the Christians, the serpent seedline will hide itself. They are the ones who want Israel to be disowned of her true heritage. But they will not succeed to deny Israel her true position in the House of God.

    Paul did not in any way suggest that Gentiles were to substitute Israel, infact he warned Gentiles not to boast over Israel as God could easily cut them off them from the true vine, as Gentiles were a wild branch, whilst Israel, the true branch, could easily be re-instated into the vine tree.

    The Gentiles would be mistaken to think they are now Israel. Paul did not confirm that the Gentiles would be Israel and neither did the prophets mention Gentiles in the Old Testament. But Israel is mentioned as being first cast off, and then later, gathered back from among the heathen by the Lord Jesus Christ Himself at the end times.

    Paul therefore warned Gentiles that if they failed, they also would be cut off from the Household of God and be replaced by true branches. He of course further advised that “all Israel would be saved” at the end.

    Now who is Israel? The Lord knows his sheep. These are the people the Lord Jesus called the lost sheep of the House of Israel and he told his disciples to feed his sheep, the lost sheep who are in the world today. He himself said He came to save the lost sheep of the House of Israel. The Christians must not forget this and imagine they have substituted Israel.

    The lost sheep of the House of Israel shall be gathered by the Lord Himself just as He gathered Israel from Egypt. Today, the world is Egypt, and Israel is still in bondage and oppressed. They live as slaves, and offer labour for little exchange. They are poor and make no mistake, they also believe in the Lord Jesus Christ, who came for them specifically.

    Today there are many false teachers, giving false messages about salvation and also being deceitful about Israel. The current world arrangement and authorities in this world hate Israel, because of her special position of future kings and priests of the most High God. Christian doctrine these days, is so watered down to hide certain truths but this will not help anyone who continues to love darkness instead of light.

    May God bless those who trust in Him.

    Jay Cee

  22. Gentle Gentile August 30, 2009 @ 10:53 pm

    Well Carol; like my old aunt (RIP) used to say….

    Wish in one hand, s–t in the other…see where you get the most. :P

    No one knows the day or the hour of the return of the Son of Man.

    Keep on Tru….er Wishin’ !!

  23. chestergimli December 4, 2009 @ 8:14 am

    I just want to say that I believe that Christ as well as St. Paul were speaking spiritually about the sons of the devil and other such things.

    For one thing, the Judaic people who remained in Palestine after the destruction of the Romans either became Christian or Muslims. They are the true Judaic people of today, not the Khazarian Jews who claim to be the descendants of the Jewish people of Israel of 2000 years ago.

    As far as the original Israelites being black, I think that it is very possible. For Europeans being Jews, well the Judaic blood intermixed with just about everyone so there may be some of Judaic blood in Europe, but not the majority of them. Heck, even Hitler’s great grandfather was a Rothschild.

    As far as the Khazar Jews thinking that they are IT? Well, they are playing games in their minds. The only things that the Jews are good at is controlling the medium of exchange-money. Maybe that is why they consider themselves superior - because they make themselves so. A problem of prestige and arrogance that monetary wealth brings.

  24. Ebner January 25, 2010 @ 12:18 am

    Edward Jones wrote/ quotes (in part) to argu the original Israelites are ‘Black’.

    “Remember GOD’S description of His people ISRAEL:

    Amos|9:7 Are ye not as children of the Ethiopians unto me, O children of Israel saith the LORD? (Ethiopians are BLACK)!!
    ======================================
    This passage does not clearly identify the Lord is referring to skin color. In fact, I’d say the Lord is referring to something far more relavent: His love for them.

    I have no doubt the the Israelites, as well as the Egyptians, were a Black race. But, I do not think in many of the quoted material in your argument that skin color is the focus of the Lord’s message. Rather His love and discipline to them.

    In fact, I’d say Jesus Christ was quite dark as well as Paul, John, Mark, Luke, Peter and so on.

    Your point then is: “God’s Chosen” people are Blacks today — the descendants of the original Israelites. Yes, I’d agree — those that are Christian.

    Christ also refers to ALL His followers as His Sheep - His “chosen people.”

    Christians are his Chosen People regardless of skin color.

  25. Paul Bartron March 20, 2010 @ 3:11 am

    Concering the nonsense that the Egyptian people were dark skinned or even Black.

    The Egyptians came from Iran and invaded the Northeast of Africa about 12,000 BC. You can read that from their own history. The King that did the invading was Ratan. He became one of the many gods of the Egyptians his name was shortened to Ra. Joseph married a priest’s daughter from the city of On.

    The white race spread to Carthage in central North Africa and under Hannibal and fought against the Romans.

    Moses married an Ethiopian and that is where the Ethiopian Jews come from. There is no evidence that the descendants of Joseph were Black.

    Islam practicies slavery and that is where the dark skin of the Arab comes from as well as the black hair of the Italians and Greeks both of whom practiced slavery. The Babylonian clay tablets clearly state that Noah was exteemely white.

    Translated by the historian Stitchin.

    It has to be assumed that the Black and Chinese races survived the flood because all of Noah’s desendants where white including Ham’s. According to the Freemasons Ham became known as Hermes to Greek mythology or mercury the messenger to the gods.

    Masons follow what is known as the Hermetic Code. Masons built the Tower of Babel, the architect was Peleg which means divided he was buried in what is now Prussia. He was the Great-Great-Great Grandfather of Abraham. The white race already spread across Europe from Peleg 100’s of years before the Exodus.

    Time indefinite does not mean forever it means for an indefinite period of time. The Abrahamic Covernant ended with the coming of Christianity.

    The Creator of the universe has never been a racist. The Jews have been cut-off from being his chosen people with the birth of Christianity. Judaism is an Apostate religion.

    Christianity is the way the truth and the life and only Christainity can prevent the human race from becoming extinct.

  26. servant of Jacob May 31, 2010 @ 7:05 am

    HE came to them first, they will come to HIM last [this makes them the beast nation sadly].

    But not before great suffering [as if they haven’t suffered enough] they now follow a man whose name = 666 gematrically - see anti Christ is a Jew; & he is the most popular king[without kingdom] & the // [666 on all traded goods] barguides he suggested his professor use made the professor rich rich.

    I pray for them my family, as time is short. They were chosen but rejected the blessing; so it was prophecied.

    No wonder Christ is the man of sorrows.

    Maranatha Shalom

  27. Tony Soldo June 8, 2010 @ 7:20 am

    We Christians are God’s choosen people, ever since Jesus Christ entered our world 2000 years ago, and did what He came to do.

    The New Testament is in force, and the Old Testament has been fufilled.

    God’s wrath has been replaced by His Grace.

    Any one who desires to know God must accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, including people who practice Judaism.

    We Christians are the True Jews, and our inheiritance os in Heaven, which is the New Jerusalem, not the earthly Jerusalem.

    Do you actually believe that Jesus would condone or command the destruction of any Palestinian, Iraqi, or Afghani child or mother, at the hands of some Israeli or US soldier?

    Let us go forth and pray for all people to see and know the love of God through Jesus Christ, and let us preach the Good News of Jesus Christ, the news of peace, not war, and the free gift of salvation for all people, Athiests, Hindus, Muslims, luke warm Christians, and even Jews. 

    Peace and Maranatha.

  28. Tony Soldo June 8, 2010 @ 10:39 am

    The article brings up some good points and leaves out a few, like John referring to the Church as the Lady, and Jesus calling the Church “the Bride”.

    The Bible states that Israel, the Jews, were cut out and the Church, the Gentiles, were grafted in as wild olive branches.

    The remnant are the 144,000 Jews left behind after the Rapture, to witness to the world the Good News of Jesus Christ.

    Will the Jews who were cut out 2000 years ago, and the Jews living today, inherit the Kingdom of Heaven, and spend eternity in the presence of the Lord God Jesus Christ, at the Judgement Seat of Christ, or will they be cast down into the Lake of Fire at the Great White Throne Judgement?

    Can the Jews receive Salvation without accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour.

    What verse states that there are two ways to eternal salvation?

    I know many verses that proclaim the Jesus Christ is the only way, truth, and life.

    Should Christians actively preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ to Jews, or just let them continue their path to destruction?

  29. PhoenicianLebanese June 18, 2010 @ 4:44 am

    EXCELLENT Site.

    Thank you for teaching and spreading the True Strength, the TRUTH.

    God bless!

  30. Fiona August 19, 2010 @ 8:44 pm

    The jews chose Barrabas, a known murderer and robber as their Messiah.

  31. Julieknowknow August 29, 2010 @ 1:34 pm

    I am a black Christian and even I was adopted into the Holy family because God’s “ONLY” begotten Son is Jesus Christ.

    In this new Family the only color that matters is LOVE.

  32. Lynn September 25, 2010 @ 10:59 am

    I have often wondered if God’s hand was in setting up the state of Israel.

    God’s in control. Perhaps He allowed man to settle the state of Israel by satan’s followers BUT He will settle His real Kingdom in His own time and His Kingdom is entirely different from Modern Israel.

    Feedback, please.

    Bless you, Brother Nathanael.

  33. AlphaEagle November 17, 2010 @ 11:19 am

    YES!

    Christians are the real chosen people. We (Christians) are the spiritual Israel.

  34. oneagain December 5, 2010 @ 9:49 pm

    Thank you Brother Nate,

    You have revealed the truth that so many today deny just as in the days of old as it was being written.

    Long live the Truth. God bless America.

  35. Nasir Khan December 17, 2010 @ 9:02 am

    The Jews were the Chosen People once upon a time, but not after Jesus & Islam.

    God loved them the most and guided them again & again by thousands of Prophets and three revealed Books.

    Their repeated acts of rebellion as also we see today replaced them. They were as they are now, no change in their hardened mischief & spread of corruption on earth.

  36. pastor ronald December 28, 2010 @ 1:40 am

    Dear brethren,

    Greetings in the wonderful name of Jesus Christ. It is my hope that you are under good care of almighty Father above.

    It is good news from you on how you are carrying on the Lord’s work and that you are serving the Lord around the world and you are enriching God’s people with the wonderful word of hope in their hearts.

    As a pastor from Kenya I am very much eager to see you and to share with you the word of God and I’m very much inspired by your message.

    As a church pastor I could like to request you to come here in Kisii-Kenya with your team so as to meet with my people and share with them as the Lord directs you.

    We also need you to teach us and to share with you much.

    We are also a church which needs to have a founder because it started with a small fellowship and God is going on blessing it, so I call upon you to come over and re-open it in an official way and to ordain the church leaders under you ministry. I will be praying for you for the word that you have planted in the hearts of men.

    The church also holds 20 kids who needs prayers so that they can meet their daily needs in life. This the gift that the Lord Has given us to care for and to look after them, so I ask you to remember them in your prayers.

    I pray the Lord to assist you in what you do so as to bring His people to His kingdom. Looking forward to hear from you soon.

    Pastor Ronald

  37. Diane February 17, 2011 @ 5:26 pm

    The Jews are not the chosen and never have been.

    They were a cursed people.

    The Israelites were the chosen people of God. That is well documented in Scripture. “Ye do err not knowing Scripture.”

  38. fandinom March 5, 2011 @ 11:59 am

    God loves Israel and Jesus Christ died for them too and from this nation came Jesus, and His Word.

    We are living in the dispensation of the grace of the church. The Church is made up of both peoples Ephesians 2:11-18

    11 Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh—who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands—12 that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.

    13 But now in Christ Jesus, you who once were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ.

    Christ Our Peace

    14 For He Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of separation, 15 having abolished in His flesh the enmity, that is, the law of commandments contained in ordinances, so as to create in Himself one new man from the two, thus making peace, 16 and that He might reconcile them both to God in one body through the cross, thereby putting to death the enmity.

    17 And He came and preached peace to you who were afar off and to those who were near. 18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.”

    Also the apostle Paul, the apostle of the gentiles was a Jew too!

    Romans 11:1 “1 I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.”

    The early Church was a remnant of Israel (Jesus chose twelve apostles from his people) who received the great commission to make disciples of all nations.

    The Apostle Paul teach us about Israel in Romans 11.

    Please read it! Beware of not being proud because we are not better than them. Jesus, our model, was humble and we have to be like Him. They have promises that God will fulfill them.

    Rom 11:28-32

    28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

    30 For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience, 31 even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy.

    32 For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.”

    We are save by grace not by works, if we are not IN Christ we never can be God’s children, or His people, or His Church, or nothing. He is the righteous, we all deserve hell for our own works.

    One day God will raise up to Israel!

    Amen!

    We have to pray for them.

  39. Brother Nathanael March 5, 2011 @ 12:22 pm

    Dear fandinom -

    You are like all Protestants who put forth their OWN opinions.

    BUT, your opinion is wrong.

    As I stated in the article, the “Israel of God” is the CHURCH, not Jews, who are the enemies of the Gospel as St Paul states.

    This is the TEACHING of the Holy Orthodox Church which Christ established and His apostles built.

    The Orthodox Church TEACHES (not your private opinion):

    There is NO special plan for the Jews BUT to join the Church through repentance and baptism.

    They are part of the WHORE OF BABYLON and MUST REPENT to enter into the “Israel of God.”

    END OF DISCUSSION.

    Do not argue with the Orthodox Church’s teachings or your contradictions will be deleted.

    +Brother Nathanael

  40. nbates50 March 6, 2011 @ 3:06 am

    Easy there Bro. Nathanael,

    Or millions of Protestants who are in general agreement with your theology, may take it that your website is meant only for those of the Orthodox Church and abandon you.

  41. sherry March 25, 2011 @ 2:05 pm

    To be honest with you people, I used to get upset when they call Israelis the “chosen people” after what they have done in Palestine killing innocent children in Gaza (Ghetto camp) bombing day and night!

    I am also not a supporter of Hamas, but Hamas came into existence in 1976 as an offshoot branch of Muslim Brotherhood.

    The real Palestinian resistance began in 1967 whereas Israel was killing civilians from 1948.

    I have no problem calling Buddha, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela, King Luther, Dalai Lama as chosen people of God who preached non-violence but calling Israelis “chosen people” it was unbearable. That’s why I moved away from Zionist Christianity.

    I know many of the Muslims are really offended by that kind of idea and that’s why its hard for them to grab the Bible!

  42. sherry March 25, 2011 @ 2:14 pm

    Anyway I do have a little King James Version of the Bible in my home.

    Sometimes I do read some passages. It is a good book.

    Shalom, Salam, Peace

  43. Jon March 26, 2011 @ 9:52 am

    United we stand & divided we fall.

    After reading this site it is very clear you are a bunch of confused people.

    Can’t unite or agree on anything. Who is the “AUTHOR OF CONFUSION” ??

    Think y’all all have a rude awakening coming !

  44. GuitarMan March 28, 2011 @ 7:17 am

    Herbert Armstrong hit closer to truth than anyone else I’ve researched for 53 years !!!

  45. ifoundisrael April 16, 2011 @ 7:21 pm

    Brother Nathaniel, thank you my brother in Christ always. I couldn’t agree more with this:

    “As I stated in the article, the “Israel of God” is the CHURCH, not Jews, who are the enemies of the Gospel as St Paul states.”

  46. ifoundisrael April 16, 2011 @ 9:41 pm

    Brother Nathanael (the name of my dearly departed uncle) thank you for a wonderful site.

    I am getting a deeper education on Zionism. May YHWH bless you always.

    Before I start, God’s word DOES NOT LIE. MEN LIE. Brother Nathanael is testimony of finding out the lies within his own faith, as I have found out through many things I’ve once held dear and believed.

    No group is perfect, especially the children of Israel, literally, when they became the lost sheep, and the spiritual children of Israel when most still don’t believe in YHWH and YESHUA as the Son of YHWH.

    It is not a belief that most enslaved Africans taken to the four corners of the world matching Deuteronomy 28 and other Biblical verses losing their heritage, it is a Biblical fact.

    From Edward’s post, he is not inferring that Gentiles are excluded, but he is talking about the literal children of Israel in historical context as outlined in the biblical prophesies of their blessings and curses of being disobedience, not the spiritual.

    No one is excluding Gentiles, but I guess some of you got a glimpse as to how hurtful the CURSE OF HAM LIE was too. History has shown that. I have always believed even before I found out the truth of my heritage revealed to me by God that Christ is in all and for all.

    I am a historian and researcher and a lot of things have not been revealed to the world. God through the spirit of truth and Jesus’ healing, the truth hidden truth were revealed to me at an early age. My family knew the truth and even I knew it but couldn’t articulate it.

    Deuteronomy 28 fits exactly what most enslaved Africans (modern categorization) like no other slave history on earth. That is an undisputed fact of truth.

    When people say color doesn’t matter, comments like that are insensitive, disrespectful, insulting, and dismissive to people of color, nor appreciated. It is evident throughout the word of YHWH that he created ONE race made up of different nations. Genetics don’t separate races, only ethnic groups.

    In the physical world different ethnicities come from different nations carrying their own prejudices. Perhaps some still hold onto the “Curse of Ham” lies, their own prejudices and what not. They’re only fulfilling what Biblical prophesy said the children of Israel would go through.

    They love Christ so He is the only one that changes hearts. However, it is offensive to any person of color who has experienced racism on the basis of their skin to say color doesn’t matter. Every society isn’t set up that way.

    Additionally, Edward, everything you posted was spot on. Keep them in your prayers because many are still brainwashed. The only people on earth that lost their entire identity, unlike slaves in world history were most enslaved Africans that were taken to the four corners of the world.

    “Massa” is the grandson of a slave and Ishmael’s son, meaning burden in Hebrew, slave narratives sing of the Holy Land, enslaved Africans knew Yeshua but knew it in their native tongues, Ashanti, Yoruba tribes as well as Igbo, Madi, Lemba tribes practiced Hebrewism, which existed longer than any religion in Africa.

    Most enslaved Africans brought to the four corners of the world match Deuteronomy 28 and other Biblical prophetic verses to the “T” about the children going into captivity never seeing their homeland again. Read the slave narratives, negro spirituals, & God’s word because He CANNOT LIE.

    Thanks to Sam, excellent links, Mrsthang38 thank you for the wisdom of edifying those verses. Many don’t see because they’ve been blinded due to the brainwashing, ergo the AUTHOR OF CONFUSION. Many don’t know that Psalm 83 is talking about the leaders of global political governments and religions that know the truth.

    All roads lead to Rome

  47. ifoundisrael April 16, 2011 @ 9:42 pm

    And thank you Guitarman. I do agree.

  48. Michelle May 30, 2011 @ 7:22 am

    Who cares who is an Israelite or a Jew…

    The Fact we should all be looking at is George Soros is an evil man and we should all be praying the God reveals the truth to the blind sheep and reveals George Soros’ evil agenda.

  49. Warren Castro June 16, 2011 @ 12:07 pm

    Brother Nathanael,

    I admire you for having embraced Yeshuah as the Messiah, for I too believe this. However, do you actually believe that Jesus is God?

    No. God is not a Man [Numbers 23:19] Man is not God [Ezekiel 28:2]. Jesus is the Image of the Invisible God [Colossians 1:15], man is the Image of God [1 Corinthians 11:7] It was man who sinned by eating the forbidden fruit, thus it a Man who didn’t sin had to pay for the sins of his body - the Church.

    Lastly, only YHWH, the Father of Jesus is Christ is True God [John 17:1-3] God does not say something then contradict it, he does not recall his words [Isaiah 31:2]

    You are very much welcome in the Church of Christ - Iglesia ni Cristo.

  50. Brother Nathanael June 16, 2011 @ 12:31 pm

    To CASTRO -

    Good name for you A HERETIC.

    Yours is a SAD PLIGHT since you DENY the Incarnation of Jesus Christ “come in the flesh” THE SPIRIT OF ANTI CHRIST.

    Christ said MANY TIMES that He and the Father were One and for this the Jews crucified Him.

    St Paul asserted that Christ was GOD OVER ALL.

    You will be in Hell if you do not repent of your heresy dear CASTRO.

    +Brother Nathanael
    Russian Orthodox Monastic

  51. o37 July 9, 2011 @ 11:53 am

    I agree with Brother Nathanael.

    Jesus Christ is God in the flesh.

    Refer to the Gospel according to Saint John:

    “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    >And the Word was made Flesh, and dwelt among us.

    >He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.”

    And 1 John 4:1-4…

    “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

    Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist….

    >Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world.”

    There you have it, perfectly clear for all to see.

    Hope and pray that Jesus knows you.

    Love, with all your heart mind and soul, and live accordingly.

  52. jimminc July 25, 2011 @ 10:58 pm

    Greetings,

    Like God, Yahweh, Almighty God, my Father, and King David, I hate all Evil men and the Wicked acts of Evil men. The Israelite was/is, today, White-Israelite, Born Again Christian of Spiritual Israel.

    The Jew, under King David was not of the “chosen.” They were why God ask King David, one afternoon when they were enjoying cool goat milk under a Palm, God said, “David, My Man, I wish a favor. And David responded, “Speak it into being,Master!”

    “David! You have 40,000, hard headed, stiff-neck, very stupid Jews out yonder, who refuse to Trust and Obey me. Send ya army out yonder, and kill all 40,000. Kil’m all!”

    Like God, I hate my enemies. Re; John 8:44 the “sons of the devil.”

    Jew! Pharisee Jews. 740 AD Khazar “Jews of Judaism”; an “ism” a religion. God hates both. Asiatics. Mongols. International Elite. Parasites who have been booted out of 47 Host Nations in past 1,000 years. Re: Zech 13:8 All nations soon. And, not to forget the 1776 Illuminati Zionist. “Jews of Judaism.” An “ism.”

    Their are two Jews I do love. Both will spend eternity with Elohim Yahweh. One is the Galilean, Jesus of Nazareth. The other is you, my Brother, and me. A son of God. The Jew of Rom. 2:29. I’ll let you look up this beautiful Scripture which will bring Joy to your Heart blessed by His blood.

    Jesus is Lord.
    jimmiec

  53. sam July 26, 2011 @ 10:36 am

    This site and most of the viewers of this page are being deceived by the Father of Lies

    Scripture from Zechariah 12:

    2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.

    3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.

    4 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.

    5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.

    If the Jews aren’t God’s chosen people then maybe someone can explain who GOD’S talking about in this verse and there are many others like this…

  54. Leonardo de la Paor October 13, 2011 @ 3:14 pm

    Shalom,

    There was only One Person who understood the Old Covenant and; He explained everything to the two disciples on the road to Emmaus (Luke 24:13-35.

    The biggest problem in Christendom today is that “Christians” don’t believe that Jesus was God, manifested in the flesh. If they did, they would accept His teaching, especially what He taught in John 4:1-26. Can you see what He is saying about worship and where its to be done? How can anyone, who claims to be a Christian, be a “Christian” Zionist?

    Its the anti-Christ who will build the temple in Jerusalem. Israel is the Whore of Babylon! Most, if not all the Reformers were wrong about Rome being the Whore! She is a daughter of the Whore! Revelation 11:8 tells us the Whore’s location.

    One bit of advice to all sincere Christians! Get the New Testament in CD form and listen to it in the privacy and quiet of your bedroom. Its like as if the writers of the Gospels and Epistles are talking directly to you, personally. You can follow what is being said and get the context of what is being said. It’s a great experience.

    When you listen to the Epistle to the Galatians, it blows away all the rubbish that has been preached by Messianic Jews & Dispensationalist Christians. I would implore any Christian to get the New Testament in CD form. It will be one of the best things you have ever done in your Christian life.

  55. Leonardo de la Paor October 13, 2011 @ 3:24 pm

    Shalom,

    Regarding Sam’s comments.

    How many horse divisions are there in modern day armies?

    You do err not knowing the Scriptures!

    Jesus Christ Is Israel

    It is written:

    Hosea 11:1 When Israel was a youth I loved him, and out of Egypt I called My Son.

    Matthew 2:14, 15 And he arose and took the Child and His mother by night, and departed for Egypt; and was there until the death of Herod, that what was spoken by the Lord through the prophet might be fulfilled, saying, “Out of Egypt did I call My Son.”

    As Jesus is the true Israel according to Scripture, He is also the true seed of Abraham for it is also written in the Scriptures:

    Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. [8] And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “In you shall all the nations be blessed.” – Galatians 3:7,8 (ESV)

    And as Jesus is the true Israel and Seed of Abraham, the promises of God were made not to natural Israel, but to Abraham and to Christ, for again it is written in the Scriptures:

    Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ. – Galatians 3:16 (ESV).

    There is one plan of redemption throughout history, by faith in Christ, the faith of Abraham, for it is also written in Scripture:

    For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. [29] And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise. – Galatians 3:27-29 (ESV)

    Thus there is only one true Israel, Jesus Christ, and none other; one redemptive plan of salvation throughout all history; one Gospel; one people of God –the Church, the Israel of God-by faith having been united to Jesus Christ, the true Israel and made heirs according to the promise of God.

    For all the promises of God find their Yes in him. That is why it is through him that we utter our Amen to God for his glory. – 2 Corinthians. 1:20 (ESV) [emphasis mine].

    The Dismissal of Earthly Jerusalem as Spiritually Significant

    Jesus said to her,

    “Woman, believe me, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. [22] You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, for salvation is from the Jews. [23]

    “But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. [24] God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” – John 4:21-24

    Here, for the first time in the history of history, God tells us that earthly Jerusalem will no longer retain spiritual significance. Jesus tells us the time for that truth had arrived. That hour “is now here.”

    Under the Gospel, earthly places like Jerusalem no longer hold distinction as a spiritual place of worship.

    The time when men were to go to the temple in Jerusalem, attend feasts and observe outward ceremonies under the old covenant were now forever dismissed with the death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus to the Father, with redemption of the elect now completed.

    God is seeking worshippers from every place, from every tribe and tongue to worship Him. Where one worships is no longer spiritually significant, the important thing is how, in “spirit and truth.”

    4:20 “…on this mountain.”

    Both Jews and Samaritans recognized that God had commanded their forefathers to identify a special place for worshipping Him (Deuteronomy. 12:5). The Jews, recognizing the Hebrew canon, chose Jerusalem (2 Samuel. 7:5-13; 2 Chronicles. 6:6).

    The Samaritans, recognizing only the Pentateuch, noted that the first place Abraham built an altar to God was at Shechem (Genesis. 12:6,7), which was overlooked by Mt. Gerizim, where the Israelites had shouted the blessings promised by God before they entered the Promised Land (Dueteronomy. 11:29,30).

    As a result, they chose Mt. Gerizim for the place of their temple.

    4:21 “…neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem.”

    There was no reason to debate locations, since both places would be obsolete soon and neither would have any role to play in the lives of those who genuinely worship God. Jerusalem would even be destroyed with its temple in 70 A.D.

    In one fell swoop, our Lord Jesus lets every child of Zion know with certainty, the entire company of the redeemed by way of the Gospel, that the spiritual significance of earthly Jerusalem in Palestine, along with the spiritual significance of every nation, is obliterated forever.

    Under the New Covenant, through the preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the effectual calling of God, peoples from every tribe and tongue join the mystical community of faith, the Church! Glorious truth!

  56. joe flaherty January 26, 2012 @ 8:18 am

    The most accurate historical research of the true House of Israel is by Biblical scholar Nord Davis, Jr.

    w w w.israelect.com/reference/extra/StarWars/

  57. ralph trefry March 15, 2012 @ 8:08 pm

    Flesh and blood shall profit no one.

    Through the history of the Jews the righteous were the chosen people and the unrighteous murdered the chosen including Jesus. Prior the arrival of Jesus the righteous [chosen] looked forward to His coming.

    Abraham is turning over in his grave — figure of speech — because the unrighteous are claiming to be the chosen.

    Righteousness is imputed in man by God through faith in His Son, be that faith of coming or passed. Abraham believed and it was counted for righteousness.

  58. phyllis April 23, 2012 @ 3:26 am

    O.K. So who is the nation that in whom all nations shall be blessed?

    Who has preached the Gospel all over the earth?

    What nations were named Israel by Jacob at the time of his blessings on Joseph’s sons?

    Herbert W. Armstrong had this right in our day and age for sure.

    No black nation has blessed the world. The Jews have definitely not blessed the whole world!

    Wake up people as to whom God, thru Abraham and Isaac and Jacob referred to.

  59. michael clark May 1, 2012 @ 6:42 pm

    Abraham had two sons first one from the bond women who was despised and the second from the free which he loved.

    So the conflict of the ages in the Middle East ensues to the point now that it effects all of us, causing us Americans to fight on foreign soil forfeiting our fathers, husbands and sons’ lives because of it. So what is the resolve as to who really owns the land in dispute?

    Surprise!!! the Bible gives us clearly that answer and it might not be what you think:

    Deuteronomy 21:15-17

    King James Version (KJV)

    15 If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:

    16 Then it shall be, when he maketh his sons to inherit that which he hath, that he may not make the son of the beloved firstborn before the son of the hated, which is indeed the firstborn:

    17 But he shall acknowledge the son of the hated for the firstborn, by giving him a double portion of all that he hath: for he is the beginning of his strength; the right of the firstborn is his.

    Two HALVES MAKES A WHOLE so that doesn’t leave much for the descendants of Isaac and his descendants, the children of Israel.

    As Christians, having accepted Messiah, we know the Promise is not physical but spiritual. All Jews must also come this way because there are no two ways to the real Promise.

    Not one by land and the other by Spirit.

    Until Israel awakens to this truth they will continue dragging us all into their deception of supporting a LIE in the Middle East, called ISRAEL.

  60. Michael Craig Clark May 3, 2012 @ 9:37 am

    Jerusalem is the womb to all of us that believe but the beginning is not the end; “However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual”.

  61. Sara De La Garza July 9, 2012 @ 4:03 pm

    After 9-11, I was angry at the Arabs for the tragedy, but only for a very short while.

    I did research and found out that in 1940, it was the Ashkenazi Russian Israel immigrants who were the first violent terrorists towards the Palestinians living in peace (Ezequiel 38:11.)

    Could it be that these cruel Russian Jew immigrants are the Gog and Magog attacking God’s Jews living among the Palestinians living in cities without walls in Palestine?-(Eze. 38:11) Our USA media never tells or shows us the truth, but one day, I watched the Mexican news.

    I saw how Israel was bombing Gaza families on the beach, and I saw a little girl screaming that her daddy was dead. Before going to sleep, I asked God how such cruel Israelites could be His Chosen People? God gave me a dream where he showed me a Bible.

    Bright white light was coming out of the Bible, and the words were bold. He gave me the words to Jeremiah 24. God told me, via Jer. 24, that “He planted and would never uproot his sweet figs, the people of Judah (living in peace among the Palestinians) from the land of Palestine.

    (Today, He still has never uprooted the Palestinians from the land.) But, his evil figs, were so rotten that He couldn’t consume them. (Rev. 3:16: If we belong to God, He consumes us.)

    God explains, in Jer. 24, that the rotten figs are those Jews that He dispersed all over the world for their hurt, to be a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse, in all places where God drove them. And God states that He would “send the sword, the famine, and the pestilence, tell they be consumed off the land which He gave to their fathers.”

    God, via Jer. 24, has told me that the land of Palestine does not, and it will never belong to the dispersed Russian Jews because He will never give it to them. In the last days, the whole world will come against His Chosen People of Israel.

    Today, the superpowers and all the world are allowing the rotten figs of Israel to starve, bombed, lie and persecute the Palestians, the true Judan remnant of God. God has stated that He will punish all nations who came against His Chosen people.

    Woe to the nations who have sided with the dispersed Ashkenazi Russian Jews of Israel against His Chosen People of Palestine!

    This is not my opinion. This is God’s prophetic Word. In the meantime, I do pray for both the Palestinians and the Russian Jews possessing Palestine. I, especially, pray that the Russian Jewish invaders find Jesus as their Lord and Savior before it’s too late for them.

    In Palestine, there are still more Christians among the Palestinians today, than among the Russian immigrant Jews. Most Russian Jews read the Talmud and the Kabbalah, and not the Hebrew Bible.

    True: many Palestinians are Moslems, but in 1940, there was a majority of Palestinians who were Bible-believing Christians. In 1940, the Russian dispersed Jews burned their Bibles and bulldozed their homes.

    Today, if you look at the nation of Palestine from a Google map, you will still see concrete slabs from former Palestinian towns where homes were bulldozed. Former Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, was proud of being called “The Bulldozer,” because he would bulldoze homes of entire Palestinian families in the middle of the night.

    Do your own research on what happened to the Palestinian people in 1940 when the dispersed Jews arrived in Palestine. Judge for yourself who was the guilty party who started all of the conflict.

  62. Greg Colbert July 17, 2012 @ 4:30 am

    Loved the prophetic word from Sara De La Garza.

    It’s the first note that makes sense about who really are the the Jewish remnant today. We hear a lot about who they are NOT, though that can be useful.

    In 2 Chronicles 36:16 we see that the Jews had rebelled so completely that there was no remedy. God arranged for them to go to Babylon. After 70 years God let them return, and they rebuilt under Nehemiah’s governorship, and Ezra’s pronouncement of the law. However they still had trouble with obedience.

    Nehemiah (Neh 7:65) said they “should not eat of the most holy things until there stood a priest with Urim and Thummim”.

    They faded out, though prophets were sent - notably Haggai, Zechariah and Malachi.

    The Jews of Jesus’ day shot themselves in the foot pretty handsomely by not recognizing him as the “priest with Urim and Thummim.” They had set up oral traditions and the Sanhedrin to instill these traditions. Like any set of man-made laws these adapted over time and became the Talmud.

    Zechariah 12:10-14 records how the Jews will mourn when they realize they have missed it for 2000 years.

    Recent Jewish comments suggest they think God favours them because they are Jewish, but really it was because God chose them, not because of who they are. God could’ve chosen anyone, and threatened to wipe them out after the golden calf incident, and make a nation from Moses.

    Without Jesus, and Urim and Thummin, the Jews did not have the knowledge of his presence imprinted in their hearts, and could not then recognize his person in Spirit in the new dispensation which Jesus initiated in Revelation 5. (The events of two millennia were written in that scroll - both sides - and Jesus is identified as God in that chapter of Revelation).

    Paul said that blindness in part is come to the Jews until the time of the gentiles is fulfilled. Then they will mourn and repent.

    Then will come the most exciting, and troublesome, time since the Fall.

    Several BILLION people will enter the Kingdom of God - because Jesus deserves that it should be so. He is the King of Kings, and our example and inspiration. He will be known by all who seek him, and his people will do exploits in his name. We will obey him because we love him.

    The key is our first love relationship with him. All else flows from that relationship.

    Many will argue over ideas and Scriptures, but those who love Jesus will know the flavour of his personality and the Scripture will confirm which word is his.

  63. PiscesJesusMan August 14, 2012 @ 8:19 pm

    I may have said this before but I’ll say it again, this is one of the most important websites on the web!

    The Zionists/Jews may be in full control but more and more people are waking up to what’s happening thanks to websites like Brother Nathanael’s! I am a recovered atheist/agnostic myself, now Christian.

    My spiritual journey has been something I undertook on my own and that’s how I discovered Brother Nathanael! My question though to Brother Nathanael or anyone else reading here is…

    If the only way to stop the complete Jewish/Zionist/Iluminati takeover over of the West is by a Christian revival (involving mass Jewish repentance as Brother Nathanael mentions, how is such a revival possible given the exisiting American political system?

    Given our secular Constitution explicitly forbidding “establishing” religion, and the increasing secularism spreading over the West, it’s hardly conceivable that this trend can be reversed unless we have a massive upheaval of our existing political system… a whole new Constitution??

    One based not on Enlightenment Deism but Christian values, similar to Russia?? I think it’s going to take a massive shift in Western values to bring about such a cultural shift.

    Goodspeed Brother Nathanael!!

  64. Jason Reinhardt September 24, 2012 @ 12:56 pm

    Brother Kapner:

    The work you have done provides the rest of us with a breath of fresh air! I have linked to you from my own blog.

    My message to the “Nation of Israel” and to all those who come from a Jewish bloodline is this: You are NOT God’s “chosen people” if you do NOT accept Jesus Christ as your Messiah and Savior!

    My blog post w/ links to your work are here:
    http://survivebeyondearth.blogspot.com/2012/09/jews-are-not-chosen-people-of-god.html

    I have also written a book which covers a number of different topics including reformed eschatology. There is a link on the top of my page for my book.

    Keep up the good work!

    Blessings,

    Jason Reinhardt

  65. Abou ismail October 16, 2012 @ 12:26 pm

    Hi,

    The debate was very instructing and interesting!

    I am a Muslim, I love Jesus and believe that he is He will come back as the Koran says. I believe in the Bible and the Gospel and I read them at least as frequently as i read the Koran.

    I live in France where Muslims and Christians are persecuted! Churches are empty and Catholic schools are closing because of our Zionist politicians who are killing the Christian identity day after day!

    Br Nathanael, now that I found your site I know that there are still Christians who fight back the evil Zionists and try to reestablish truth. I ask God to give you strength and help in your battle.

    Salam aleykoum

  66. Jentu Piez December 17, 2012 @ 5:40 pm

    At this point I’m speechless.

    Initially, I thought that salvation came through the Jews according to the Holy Bible.

    But I believe God will help open our mind to the truth.

  67. Mark May 23, 2013 @ 11:10 am

    Anyone who says that the Jews are God’s Chosen People are saying that the Old Covenant is still in affect, which means that Jesus Christ lied when He claimed to be the Messias.

    “Drink this all of you, for this is the Chalice of My Blood, the Blood of the NEW and EVERLASTING COVENANT….”

    Either Our Blessed Lord is right, or He is lying, you can’t have it both ways!!

    An interesting note: When the Romans destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD, as Our Lord had foretold, the only building that was not destroyed, was the Upper Room.

    This building was converted into a church by the Apostles, and they dedicated it to St James the Just, First Bishop of Jerusalem and a relative of Our Saviour, and also to King David.

    This Church of Jerusalem was situated on top of Mount Sion!

    Also, has everyone thought about the Western “Wailing” Wall? The Jews claim it to be the remnant of the Temple, but how can it be? Our Lord said that not one stone would be left standing!

    Also, the Roman-Jewish historian Flavius Josephus wrote that EVERYTHING was flattened, including the Temple! So, how can this wall be part of the Temple? It isn’t! It was in fact, a wall belonging to the Roman Fort that stood on that site, called Fortus Antonia, named after the infamous Mark Antony!

    The Jews are praying to a pagan wall. Also, if I am right, the Roman god of war, Mars, was worshipped there, since he was believed to be the god of soldiers. So now, the Jews are praying a war god! Nice! Well, sort of fits in really, since the Jews want to wage war on everyone!

    Another thing to consider as well! The 144,000 that St John mentions in his Apocalpyse. Who are they? Well, during the time of the Destruction of Jerusalem, it is noted that 144,000 Hebrew Christians fled into the Judaean mountains to escape!

    The 144,000 are not future Apostate Jews who convert to the True Religion, they are Hebrews who have already converted, 2,000 years ago!

    When Christ said that “this generation” shall not pass away, He meant it. He wasn’t just talking about the whole Christian Era, He was also talking about the people of His own time.

    And sure enough, before their generation past away, the Wrath of Almighty God was delivered to the Jews, in the Destuction of Jerusalem!

  68. johnloving June 12, 2013 @ 6:22 pm

    I believe, we must set aside one day when all true Christians gather and rejoice their true leader.

    A worldwide prayer day, to show the devil worshipers our true love for Jesus, and what beauty and love this world still has.

    Please Brother Nathanael, make this happen.

  69. John Chester August 29, 2013 @ 11:23 am

    I have been very impressed with the works of Brother Nathanael for quite some time.

    I was raised in no specific Christian religion, but also was not anti-Christian in belief. My mother sent me to a Unitarian Church, although she herself did not attend. My father was raised in the Episcopalian Church, but never attended during my lifetime.

    I was a “seeker” you might say, and knew much was wrong with the plethora of “Churchianity.”

    At about age 27, I toured the campus of the organization started by Herbert Armstrong. Sadly, I joined the organization, and spent about 5 years. All the time, I felt something was seriously wrong, as the entire thrust of HWA’s theology was “Hitler was Satanic,” “Germany will rise up and rule the world-the Anti-Christ” etc.

    Bashing the Third Reich, and Adolph Hitler also happens to be one of the main propaganda lies of Judaism 24/7.

    He also tyrannically called for “More and More money to be given as Tithes!” This was followed by his proclamation, that if you didn’t give until it actually hurt, you were considered by God to be an “unprofitable Servant, destined for the Lake of Fire!”

    His personal take financially was about $250,000. per year, back in the late 1970’s, plus his own Grumman Gulfstream Jet (about 20 million), private limousine, homes in multiple locations, servants, and as mentioned, his “special women.” He even had the gall to call himself a “Prophet.”

    I left that fraudulent, ruthless, lying “Money Scam” in 1973, and never looked back. The members of that sick organization are brainwashed in every sense of the word, and MOST of them rendered unable to think, see, or hear truth.

    It was the advent of the Internet that enabled me to search out the “secrets” of the Herbert Armstrong cult. True to the Bible, the truth will come out!

    That sick con-man, HWA was a pedophile who had sex with his OWN daughter for about 12 years; he was deeply involved in affairs in the foul, murderous, State of Israel; he had his top Evangelists pimp young women in his phoney “College” to be his “sex servants” who received an allowance, an automobile, and their own apartment; he was a complete Liar, and plagiarized the book written in 1909 “Joseph’s Scepter.”

    When he died, his fellow criminals split up and started their own money scam operations all over the U.S. It was a truly “Evil” organization. The “fruits” of that organization was “wrecked and ruined families, left in a mental fog for life.”

    I thank the living Jesus Christ, that I was not destroyed mentally by that Satanic organization, but I paid a very heavy price. My life and family was ruined, literally “short circuited” for nearly 20 years.

    There are lying pastors out there, “deceiving Many” and getting very rich$$$$. The business of “Churchianity” pays well, and is truly “Of this WORLD.”

    Brother Nathanael is a true beacon of Light on the Internet, teaching the plain, unvarnished truth as spoken by Jesus Christ, and his disciples.

    There are many “Truther” sites exposing the crimes of the Judaic tribe in detail. However there are none to my knowledge who give the only way to solve our nations problems; Return our nation to love, honor, dedication to Jesus Christ.

    Many of those supposedly “anti-Judaic” web sites actually denigrate Christianity; denigrate Jesus Christ personally; or refuse to use his NAME, instead inserting “Yashua.”

    Thank you Brother Nathanael for your work.

  70. BonnieRonnie January 21, 2014 @ 6:30 pm

    What a plethora of opinions/ideas and whatever else people are thinking of I have read in this forum!

    Either the Jews are or are not God’s chosen people. How can we know? At Mount Sinai there was a Bilateral agreement entered into and the conditions were made known in no uncertain terms. The people responded with …”all the words.. we are willing to do” Ex. 24:3.

    Well, for a while, they did — but it was not followed through. The agreement (covenant) was broken. Not that it was broken just on one single occasion, but as we all know, it was brazenly side-stepped time and again with impudence.

    Now what do we expect God to do? Yes, yes, yes. He is infinitely merciful, we know, but there is a limit to abusing His undeserved kindness He expresses to mankind. As was rightly pointed out by this site’s owner, the great ’street evangelizer, Jesus did say “look, your house is abandoned to you.” (Matt. 23:38).

    Are we to believe the Son of God or do we reject his words? Definitely, the Jews (?) are not God’s people after reading Jesus’ words. HOWEVER, that is not to say that an INDIVIDUAL from that people can become reconciled back to God, right?

    Become reconciled to God — how? The Bible points to only one mechanism in place 2Cor.5:18: “But all things are from God, who reconciled us to Himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of the reconciliation.”

    Recall that just before He went back to heaven to His Father, Jesus said that a composite body of men, through the ages, would be spiritually feeding God’s people (as shepherds in ancient Israel were supposed to do) until His return — that was a ‘faithful and descreet slave’ that he mentioned at Matt.24:45-47.

    Jesus entrusted this ‘one’ with a weighty responsibility but said that this ‘one,’ if found faithful at the time of the end, dishing out spiritual food, as it were, would be pronounced ‘Happy” meaning that he would be rewarded.

    Since this is the Organisation that God is using, it behooves people everywhere to search for, then identify, this ’slave’. Only from this ‘one’ will Truth be found. And it means Everlasting Life ( John 17:3)

    Where do you go from here?

  71. k. elysee March 6, 2014 @ 7:28 pm

    Brevity is the soul of wit…ed

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